Ini kali "bomb" yg dijanjikan Elaine thn depan? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/081125/business_us_financial.html?.v=2 > > *Reuters* > China growth seen slowing; Citi boosts stocks > Tuesday November 25, 12:58 am ET > By Alan Wheatley > > BEIJING (Reuters) - China's growth could well slow to its weakest pace in > almost two decades next year, the World Bank said, the latest grim prognosis > for a global economy buckling despite the concerted efforts of policymakers. > > What started more than a year ago as a meltdown in the U.S. market for > high-risk mortgages has engulfed the world, freezing access to credit, > sparking bank collapses and requiring the financial bailout of entire > countries. > > Qantas Airways (ASX:QAN.AX <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=qan.ax> - > News<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=qan.ax>), > motorcycle maker Honda Motor (Tokyo:7267.T - > News<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=7267.t>) > and camera company Canon (Tokyo:7751.T - > News<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=7751.t>) > added their voices to a chorus of firms warning of the effects of the > slowdown. > > But the U.S. government's weekend rescue of No.2 bank Citigroup Inc (NYSE: > C <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=c> - News<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=c>) > provided some temporary respite for battered equity markets, sending Asian > shares up 3 percent on Tuesday. > > A 20 billion pound plan to kickstart the British economy announced on > Monday and hopes for an aggressive stimulus package from the incoming > administration in Washington also provided some relief. > > U.S. President-elect Barack Obama said his newly appointed economic team > would act "swiftly and boldly" to fight the downturn that has sent the > world's largest economy into its worst tailspin in decades. > > "These extraordinary stresses on our financial system require extraordinary > policy responses," Obama said. > > China this month unveiled a 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) spending package > to help prop up its economy, but growth would still likely slow to around > 7.5 percent in 2009, from 9.4 percent this year, the World Bank said in a > report. > > That would be China's slowest growth since 1990 and below a pace of 8 > percent that conventional wisdom suggests is needed to absorb newscomers to > the workforce. > > But World Bank country director David Dollar said at the forecast rate of > growth, China would continue to create enough jobs and the labor market > would remain "pretty tight." > > More than half the forecast growth next year would come from Beijing's > stimulus package, while net exports, by contrast, would lop 1 percentage > point off growth as overseas demand for Chinese goods slows, the bank said. > > *DAMAGE CONTROL* > > Evidence continued to mount about the parlous state of the global economy > elsewhere too. > > In Japan, which suffered years of economically damaging deflation, the cost > of business services fell the most in five years in October. > > The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development is expected to > report recession in the United States, Japan and the euro zone would drag > emerging economies into a punishing slowdown as access to credit remains > tight and consumer confidence evaporates. > > U.S. gross domestic product data is likely to show economic activity shrank > by 0.5 percent in the third-quarter, more than initially estimated. > > A further deterioration is expected this quarter, putting the world's > largest economy in recession. > > "Economic conditions are rapidly changing in the current quarter, largely > as a result of the financial market dislocations and faltering confidence > among both businesses and consumers," said Joseph Lavorgna, chief U.S. > economist at Deutsche Bank Securities in New York. > > *DEMAND SLOWS* > > Companies have also been feeling the pinch. > > Australia's Qantas said demand had slowed, forcing it to cut its 2009 > profit forecast and further reduce capacity. > > "We are in unpredictable times and the international business market, in > particular, has slowed," Chief Executive Geoff Dixon said in a statement. > > The president of Japan's Canon warned in an interview with Reuters that the > global market for digital cameras may contract next year as consumer demand > shrinks. > > And Honda, the world's top motorcycle maker, said sales could stop growing > in 2009 as the credit crisis catches up with emerging markets. > > But relief that Citigroup would not be allowed to go the same way as Lehman > Brothers (Other OTC:LEHMQ.PK <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=lehmq.pk> - > News <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=lehmq.pk>) and Bear Stearns > encouraged investors to buy shares beaten to multi-year lows last week. > > Shares in Citigroup surged almost 60 percent on Monday after the U.S. > government moved to rescue it with a $20 billion capital injection and a > promise to shoulder hundreds of billions in risky assets. > > The U.S. S&P 500 (^SPX <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5espx> - > News<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=_spx>) > jumped 6.5 percent, taking its gains since Friday to 13.2 percent -- its > biggest two-day rally since the days following the 1987 stock market crash. > > In Japan, the Nikkei average > (Osaka:^N225<http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5en225>- > News <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=_n225>) added more than 2 percent, > while MSCI's index of other Asia-Pacific stocks > (^MIAPJ0000PUS<http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5emiapj0000pus>- > News <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=_miapj0000pus>) added 3 percent, > having sunk to a five-year low last week. > > "Expectations for the new U.S. administration were a major factor while the > Citi bailout news also helped. Gestures shown by Obama and his team this > week were aggressive and gave assurance to investors," said Kim June-kie, a > market analyst at SK Securities in Seoul. > > (Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Lincoln Feast; Editing by Neil > Fullick) > > > 2008/11/24 antonius martono salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> YES I agree with EL, bail out is not even a solution. it's almost the >> same condition as Indonesia 1998 when many banks bankrupt and leaving toxic >> asset. which at the end the government sold the asset in ridiculously cheap >> price.(hope this will not happened in US) >> >> US still leaves its auto industry almost in bankruptcy, auto industry hold >> major employment in US. yet this industry must not be bail out. US auto is >> diminishing caused by nature (survival of the fittest) their efficiency cost >> is very low compare to JAPAN. the management is also spend money (private >> jet, luxurious company dinner, etc) >> >> i have one another option in this crisis, US economy will not as strong as >> ever even after recovery. the problem in the crisis, why its affecting other >> country is because US is the biggest demand for everybody. where the money >> goes? CHINA... >> logic behind it, since property in US boosted by lousy credits banking >> (and now government) is like giving money to their people in order to keep >> spending... and i think we all can guess where the housing products and >> others comes mostly from. CHINA >> >> US economy in the future has very limited growth if not declining, their >> economy mostly come from creative industry, there is no US products that >> prevail in the market unless their movie, software, war machines, etc. even >> intel and ipod is made in china. and creative industry is ELITE economic its >> didn't spread the wealth to people. >> >> if currently overheating growth of china comes from export, its time to >> rebalancing their balance sheet in the consumption part. 1,4trillion USD >> planned to spend by chinesse gov to boost world economic. i believe they >> will use it mostly on infrastructure in their own country (spreading the >> wealth, keeping economic growth, making their country the best haven for >> industry and business which in the long run will benefits for them), >> which will create demand on supporting country (INDONESIA as well). >> so we are now seeing a changing world of so called superpower nation. >> >> well its just my 2 cent... >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Monday, 24 November, 2008 22:25:17 >> >> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow >> >> *omg do you even know what bail out means? it's just another term of >> debt-swap. The toxic debts are still there, except now the US govt are the >> one whose paying for it, but the truth is the whole world are bailing out >> the sickening United States cuz they're just simply too big to fail. >> >> Crashing oil, lower rates, weak currencies vs USD. Where does all the >> money go? Obama's United States of America. The US MUST recover, and the >> rest will follow. Now you're saying I'm bearish? No, I am not, but I like to >> follow where the money goes, and obviously not to emerging markets. >> >> Asia has its own problem. The big red communists country is facing a >> meltdown. Now that'd be next year story so If I tell you here it'd be a >> spoiler... ^_^ >> >> Elaine** >> * >> 2008/11/24 Dean Earwicker <dean.earwicker@ gmail.com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >>> Masih bearish EL? Citi di bailout, is that supposed to be a good news >>> or not? btw mendingan kita semua sama-sama genjot bumi aja dulu deh, gmn? >>> biar semua hepi.Asal bumi dah sembuh sih yang lain gampang mo ngikut. >>> Biasanya sih gitu. >>> >>> Regards, >>> DE >>> >>> 2008/11/24 Elaine Sui <elainesui83@ gmail.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>> >>> *Frighten? I'was just saying 'Hello Art, you got my attention', why so >>>> afraid? It is their own right to lose money. **^_^* >>>> * >>>> Elaine** >>>> * >>>> 2008/11/24 SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>>> >>>> *Don't frightened them up Elaine, just let it flow as usual. B#m# >>>>> has been set up. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SF FM >>>>> Where you can trust your fund >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Sun, 11/23/08, Elaine Sui <elainesui83@ gmail.com<[EMAIL >>>>> PROTECTED]> >>>>> >* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: Elaine Sui <elainesui83@ gmail.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow >>>>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> >>>>> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:40 PM >>>>> >>>>> *Just passing by. Who knows I can get some profit from this group >>>>> discussion. Maybe from you or someone else here.... ^_^ (Hey I'm just >>>>> being >>>>> honest, don't stare at me like that, man.. geez..) >>>>> >>>>> Elaine** >>>>> * >>>>> 2008/11/23 Petualang Saham <petualang.saham@ yahoo.com<[EMAIL >>>>> PROTECTED]> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>> He3x,akhirnya muncul juga dikau darling.. >>>>>> Apa kbr Elaine, kmn aza selama ini ga prnh keliatan. >>>>>> Kangen juga denganmu lama tak jumpa. >>>>>> Btw, ada tanda Alam apa ini El??.. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. >>>>>> com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, >>>>>> "Elaine Sui" <elainesui83@ ...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *I'm watching you. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Elaine** >>>>>> > * >>>>>> > 2008/11/23 artomoro9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > masa sudah di kasi sasaran tembak sama begawan embah, gak di >>>>>> tembak >>>>>> > > juga. hehehe. lompat kodok ke 1210 sih mudah nih kayaknya. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > kalo cuaca regional mendukung sih. semoga ga ada yg ganggu. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > salam, >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > artomoro9 (jangan jual murah saham anda) >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > *Vic <victor_sperandeo@ ...>* wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > dow loncat 6,54% masa masih pakai taktik gerilya sih? >>>>>> > > blue sky scenario: >>>>>> > > beberapa hot stocks ar kanan. >>>>>> > > tapi ihsg cuma naik 5%. soalnya bumi tetep ar kiri hehehe. >>>>>> > > bumi is still the sum of all fear. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. >>>>>> > > com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >>>>>> >>>>>> > > "fifi young" <fifiyoung03@> >>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Hayooo...... ...! >>>>>> > > > Jangan sampe ketinggalan kereta...! >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Isi amunisi anda besok pagi fully loaded...! >>>>>> > > > Kita ikut geriliya dengan Mbah...! >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Semoga sukses! >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > 2008/11/23 ruzli <indeksbei3000@> >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > > Thanks atas daftarnya MBAH.. >>>>>> > > > > Untuk sektor Finance, mohon di cek lagi Price as of 28 Okt ??? >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > Thank U >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > 9|BBRI |Bank Rakyat Indonesi|FINA |BANK | 1.375| 51| 60| >>>>>> > > 1.525| >>>>>> > > > > 4.050| 2.525|130.803| 110| >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > 2008/11/22 jsx_consultant <jsx-consultant@> >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> To push HIGHER swing, embah add more AMMO for next Monday: >>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > > > >> 50 stocks: http://www.invest20 00.net/ZZIDSUM2. >>>>>> > > > >> TXT<http://www.invest2000.net/ZZIDSUM2.TXT> >>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > > > >> --- In >>>>>> obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>> >>>>>> > > <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >>>>>> > > > >> "jsx_consultant" <jsx- >>>>>> > > > >> consultant@> wrote: >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > THIS IS HIGH RISK !!!!! >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > SWING TRADING HIT LIST (Trader Brigade 1089) >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > 21 November 2008 11:03 WIB >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > IHSG saat ini 1103, mendekati PREVIOUS LOW SUPPORT >>>>>> 1089..... >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > Jika 1089 BISA BERTAHAN, lakukan SWING TRADING atas saham >>>>>> saham >>>>>> > > > >> > dibawah: >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > Note: >>>>>> > > > >> > - Daftar saham ini dibuat berdasarankan RENTANG SWING yg >>>>>> TERBESAR >>>>>> > > > >> > ketika IHSG rebound dari tgl 28/10/08 sampai tgl 05/11/08 >>>>>> > > > >> > - Daftar ini diurut berdasarkan PENURUNAN TERBESAR sejak >>>>>> 05/11/08 >>>>>> > > > >> > sampai kemarin tgl 20/11/08 >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > Risk: >>>>>> > > > >> > - This is a high risk swing trading but if the index >>>>>> rebound, the >>>>>> > > > >> > reward is good. >>>>>> > > > >> > - DJI masih turun lagi nanti malam. >>>>>> > > > >> > - Jika IHSG menjebol KEBAWAH level 1089, EXIT !!! >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > DAFTAR HIT LIST: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ ZZIDSUM1. >>>>>> TXT <http://www.obrolanbandar.com/ZZIDSUM1.TXT> >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > DISCLAIMER ON >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- >>>>>> > > Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! >>>>>> Indonesia<http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ mail/id/footer/ def/*http: >>>>>> //id.yahoo. >>>>>> com/<http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http://id.yahoo.com/> >>>>>> >yang >>>>>> baru! >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
