bear and bull fighting

newbie yg baca pada bingung mo ikut yg mana.... 

el i didnt have a chance to read all of your posts, but if my memory serves me 
correctly, you said the gain some of the stocks would be 500%?

anytime frame on that gain? 1,2,3,5,10 years? 

Elaine Sui <elainesu...@gmail.com> wrote:                             ha ha ha 
okay dear, whaaateverr..  I guess I can't push everyone here. But contrary to 
your advice, I'm watching the fundamental very carefully, it's VERY USEFUL in 
this kinda situation. I don't gamble, but most ppl do. Seriously, does 
technical tell you that this' only a bear rally? I don't think so.
 
Tell us, what is the definition of bear rally in your term?

Elaine


 2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja <hmin...@gmail.com>
            None....

it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much.... more 
money than the can consume...

so it is time for gamble.

How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small 
amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.
   
so just have fun and make money..

enjoy this bear rally until it last..

forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just 
useless under this kind circumstance
   

2009/1/3 Elaine Sui <elainesu...@gmail.com>

             Answer this, noob.  Which one is commonly used to measure future 
economic growth:
a. Copper spot price
 b. Crude Oil
  c. Consumer price index
d. GDP
e. none above

I bet you can't answer that.

Elaine

2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenz...@yahoo.com>   

 I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
 newbie on my nov first posting :)
 
 Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Elaine Sui <elainesu...@...> wrote:
 >
 
> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
 welcome back
 > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
 >
 > Elaine**
 > *
 
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenz...@...>
 
>
 > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
 > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
 > >
 > >
 > > Regards
 > >
 > >
 > > "Elaine Sui" <elainesui83@> wrote:
 > > >
 > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
 > > because they
 > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
 it
 > > can save
 > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
 > > >
 > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
 that
 > > before..)
 > > >
 > > > Elaine**
 > > > *
 > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@>
 > > >
 > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
 sama
 > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
 > > > >
 > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
 baru
 > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
 > > > >
 > > > > Peace
 > > > >
 > > > > Regards
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > ruzli <indeksbei3000@> wrote:
 > > > > >
 > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
 chart
 > > > > sektor
 > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
 Kalau
 > > di
 > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
 &
 > > > > Volume,
 > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
 koreksi
 > > > > tgl 7
 > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
 sy
 > > jg
 > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz <y_dizz@> wrote:
 > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
 wave-nya
 > > > > IHSG
 > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
 lagi
 > > lah,
 > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
 post. 5
 > > > > Januari
 > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
 <indeksbei3000@>
 > > > > > > wrote:
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
 > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
 > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
 > > candlestick,
 > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
 laporan
 > > > > > > keuangan,
 > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
 > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
 > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
 > > loren,
 > > > > cuma
 > > > > > > ho ki te it
 > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
 > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
 > > saran,
 > > > > > > masukan
 > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> Regards
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz <y_dizz@> wrote:
 > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
 breakout
 > > > > > > trendline-
 > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
 here
 > > we
 > > > > > > come...
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
 > > > > > >> > <frombuitenzorg@> wrote:
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
 sulitnya
 > > > > > > memprediksi
 > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
 ngeramal,  ini
 > > > > > > prediksi
 > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat
 pasti
 > > kita
 > > > > > >> > cepat
 > > > > > >> >> kaya :)
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. ..
 > > mohon
 > > > > > > jangan
 > > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau
 FA.
 > > Ini
 > > > > hanya
 > > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi
 tgl
 > > 5,
 > > > > > > HANYA
 > > > > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi
 > > masa
 > > > > > > depan".
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >> Disclaimer banget....
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
 > > > > > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
 > > > > > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
 > > > > > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
 > > > > > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up,
 > > > > selisihnya
 > > > > > >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari
 > > melesetnya.
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >> Regards
 > > > > > >> >>
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> --
 > > > > > >> Sent from my mobile device
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > > --
 > > > > > Sent from my mobile device
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