Pak JT, disamping tips2 TA, sekali2 cerita donk ttg psikologi trading n MM, please :) TIA yaahh
Retha from my Amazing BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -----Original Message----- From: "JT" <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:10:24 To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Kasus2 (SP) pasar modal...Re: Info APN telkomsel Menurut saya itu memang tidak kecil, tapi juga tidak terlalu sulit untuk dicapai...,jadi sangat feasible and doable lah..., Nah apakah berani kelola duit orang dengan imbalan fee?? Ini ceritanya jadi lain Mbah.., sukses trading mostly ditentukan oleh Psikology, MM & TA, tiga hal tsb tidak bisa dipisahkan dan HARUS saling MENDUKUNG.., nah tidak semua orang comfort dengan tanggung-jawab meskipun dibayar..., secara psikology akan SANGAT BERBEDA antara mengelola duit sendiri dengan duit orang.., kalau itu terjadi maka akan sangat mengganggu emosi si trader.., kalau psychology/emosi sdh terganggu, maka performanya bisa jauh berbeda.... sejago-jagonya menguasai TA & MM, tapi when it comes to psychology.., in some degree, most people have problem with it..., Teman-teman mungkin pernah ada yg coba paper trading kan, coba bandingkan hasilnya dgn trading pakai real money..., hehe, pasti jomplang.., apalagi kalau pake duit orang... hehe. Ya jadi gimana dong? Ya harus belajar sendiri dan trading sendiri lah, pakai duit sendiri yg Idle, tentukan zona comfort anda thd resiko, sehingga bisa trading dengan santai, maka 3% perbulan Insya Allah tidak terlalu sulit. JT -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 22 Februari 2009 15:00 To: [email protected] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kasus2 (SP) pasar modal...Re: Info APN telkomsel Jangan sembarangan bilang 3% kecil, kalo anda bisa JAMIN bisa gain 3% sebulan atau 36% setahun SAAT INI. Anda bisa punya banyak client dan tentunya bakalan dapet fee. Tapi prakteknya engga akan ada yg berani menjamin 3% tersebut meskipun kecil kecuali yg mau nipu. --- In [email protected], anru dadaq <anru.s...@...> wrote: > > Kalau cuma segitu ya kecil. Syaratnya cuma mbah & pa JT posting terus > saat jam trading. :) > > On 22/02/2009, JT <jsxtra...@...> wrote: > > Mbah, let say bunga deposito 12% /thn, artinya 1 % /bln.., kalau > > 'disyaratkan' 3X berarti 3 % / bln net..., hmm, rasanya sangat feasible.., > > syaratnya hrs trading, kalau buy n hold ya susah, karena memang belum > > masanya..., Mohon Maaf, kalau 3% aja ngga bisa dicapai per bulan dari > > trading, pasti ada yg salah dgn trader tsb, sebaiknya stop dulu dan cari > > dulu salahnya dimana... > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R) powered by ISAT > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "jsx_consultant" <jsx-consult...@...> > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:36:39 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kasus2 (SP) pasar modal...Re: Info APN telkomsel > > > > > > Untuk bisa dibilang untung maka kenaikan index/saham harus lebih > > besar dari bunga deposito. > > > > Tapi karena pada saham melekat RISK bahwa modal bisa berkurang > > maka: > > - Keuntungan dibursa mininum harus lebih besar dari 3x bunga > > deposito atau IHSG trending dengan kemiringan 5%/bulan atau > > IHSG minimal naik +65/bulan. > > - Reward minimal 3x dari Resiko, jadi untuk saham saham yg > > VOLATILE, kita harus mencari saham dengan target gain > > yg lebih besar lagi karena Risknya lebih besar. > > > > Ada yg bisa suggest saham apa ?. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "JT" <jsxtrader@> wrote: > >> > >> EL, why worried? when MOST people are bearish, that's a sign of > > bottoming., > >> why? Because MOST people wait for lower price, they don't have > > stock and > >> they don't buy now., and if you don't buy, you obviously CAN'T > > SELL., so > >> less seller meaning less pressure, and price will not go TOO FAR > > without > >> pressure.. > >> > >> > >> > >> So let them bearish, tidak usah dipikirin, we should be afraid when > > everyone > >> bullish, because they MUST BE LOADED and ready to unloaded. > >> > >> > >> > >> Have a nice weekend, EL. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> JT > >> > >> > >> > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:obrolan- > > [email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Elaine Sui > >> Sent: 22 Februari 2009 1:06 > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kasus2 (SP) pasar modal...Re: Info APN > >> telkomsel > >> > >> > >> > >> It's an old story to be exact. These gangsters know what I do but > > yet they > >> can't do anything. > >> > >> Geez, I don't understand, why some ppl are so bearish at this time. > > I mean, > >> why'd you do that for? The media keeps telling the same story over > > and over > >> again. Recession. Ponzi. Fraud. Bankruptcy. Bad results. Blah. > > Well, hello! > >> We all already know how bad it is. We don't invest in US > > financials. We > >> invest here, in emerging market like Indonesia. It's all different > > story. > >> > >> I know the US markets were down, but selling at this time is the > > dumbest > >> thing an investor can do. > >> > >> This is an open challenge. I will be in short position on all > > financials, > >> gold, USD and consumers, and long on housing/construction, autos, > >> infrastructure, commodities, and tech stocks. Yeah I know, it's an > > unusual > >> mix but that's my strategy for 1H09. Remember, I SHARED my strategy > > here in > >> OB back in 1H08 and 2H08, I wasn't worried if anyone'd peek at my > > portfolio. > >> I shared them for free!. Embah should remember that. > >> > >> Let's see what your gang can do, Oentoeng. What is yours? Don't say > > you > >> can't tell, or I'll take that as a defeat. Hm hm.. > >> > >> I'm waiting for your call. > >> > >> I don't expect anyone to follow me, as I don't really need them > > anyway. (lol > >> this' what I call arrogant.. ha ha). > >> > >> Elaine > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > + + > > + + + + + > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > > + + + + + > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > + + > > + + + + + > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > > + + + + + > > + +Yahoo! 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