Many thx Pak Ronny for your correction. I got it through a friend attended such training. Bosses in off are concerned n wants some staff trained in cpr to perform first aid when heart attack occured in off.
Since this is oot, no need to prolong this thread unless others have valuable inputs. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Rony S.U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:01:55 To:<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: How to do self-CRP when you have a heart-attack? Maaf mbah, saya ingin mencoba meluruskan message yg Cough - Self CPR itu. As a physician, i have a responsibility to respon to the wrong message sent earlier. Semoga bermanfaat. ----------------- Cough CPR, reff : www.americanheart. <http://www.americanheart.org> org AHA/American Heart Organization) or u can browse it on www.about.com <http://www.about.com> The American Heart Association does not endorse "cough CPR," a coughing procedure widely publicized on the Internet. As noted in the 2005 American Heart Association Guidelines for Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation and Emergency Cardiovascular Care, the American Heart Association DOES NOT TEACH THIS AS PART OF THE CORE CURRICULUM IN ANY COURSE. During a sudden arrhythmia (abnormal heart rhythm), it may be possible for a conscious, responsive person to cough forcefully and maintain enough blood flow to the brain to remain conscious for a few seconds until the arrhythmia disappears or is treated. Blood flow is maintained by increased pressure in the chest that occurs during forceful coughs. This has been mislabeled "cough CPR," although it's not a form of traditional resuscitation. Why isn't "cough CPR" appropriate in CPR training courses? "Cough CPR" should not be routinely taught in lay-rescuer CPR courses, because it would complicate teaching traditional CPR. It would add information that's not generally useful in the prehospital setting. In virtually all lay-rescuer CPR courses, the finding that signals an emergency is the victim's unresponsiveness. This signals the rescuer to begin the "A, B, C's" of CPR. Unresponsive victims will not be able to perform "cough CPR." Are there situations when "cough CPR" is appropriate? This coughing technique to maintain blood flow during brief arrhythmias has been useful in the hospital, particularly during cardiac catheterization. In such cases the patient's ECG is monitored continuously, and a physician is present. During cardiac catheterization, patients may develop sudden arrhythmias. If a life-threatening arrhythmia is detected within the first 10 to 15 seconds and before the patient loses consciousness, a physician or nurse may tell the patient to cough. Repeated, forceful coughing can help the person stay conscious until the arrhythmia disappears or is treated. Therefore, the usefulness of "cough CPR" is generally limited to monitored patients with a witnessed arrest in the hospital setting. Kesimpulan: Jadi, Self CPR yang dengan batuk itu hanya digunakan pada keadaan jantung tertentu yakni aritmia yang sedang menjalani proses kateterisasi jantung di RS, dan itupun dilakukan tentunya dibawah pengawasan medis. Hal itu dilakukan untuk menjaga agar aliran darah tetap dipertahankan untuk menuju ke otak (dengan meningkatkan tekanan di rongga dada , karena batuk akan meningkatkan takanan pada rongga dada) sehingga pasien diharapkan akan tetap sadar untuk sementara. Bila serangan jantungnya adalah non aritmia, teknik batuk ini tidak berguna sama sekali karena "in a true heart attack where the blood supply to the heart is blocked, the "coughing CPR" would not do any good" AHA Recommendation The best strategy is to be aware of the early warning signs for heart attack and cardiac arrest and respond to them by calling 9-1-1. If you're driving alone and you start having severe chest pain or discomfort that starts to spread into your arm and up into your jaw (the scenario presented in the Internet article), pull over and flag down another motorist for help or phone 9-1-1 on a cellular telephone.--> Kalau di indonesia yang susah, tdk ada nomor tlp emergency terpadu seperti 911, ....di Indonesia mungkin bisa diganti dengan menelpon 118 (AGDT/ Ambulans Gawat Darurat Terpadu), tapi sayangnya baru ada di Jakarta dan Surabaya , dan yg 'katanya gratis' hanya yang di Jakarta.... Semoga bermanfaat Rgds, Rony S.U ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> net.id To: obrolan-bandar@ <mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: How to do self-CRP when you have a heart-attack? > Mbah, seeking your permission to post this. > > I read this short slides about how to do a self-CRP when having a > heart-attack. I know it is OOT but hope it will be beneficial to OBers. > > Happy reading and hope we will never have to use it. > > Regards > > PS: Ups sorry, forgot the attachment. ------------------------------------ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! 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