the only way we could ever become a respectable neighbourhood is if you let the SAPS be and allow them to do their job without interference.
they will not use aggression on the innocent, so if you read or hear or witness so-called police brutality, then it must surely be justified by the fact that they are at war with a brutal element out there. the SAPS never satisfies anybody, because they are either too non-responsive / inadequate in their response time to crime reporting or they are overly aggressive! how could they ever fulfill their obligations to the citizens of obz if they are criticized perpetually. eventually they will be forced to adopt a philosophical approach and beware the good citizens of obz, crime will prosper,..it's a matter of time BUT; if we let them do what they do best, there is hope yet. my message to the "cry for the criminal" lobbiests out there is that they should stick to what they are qualified to do in life, whatever that might be and leave our cops who are qualified to clean our streets to do so, in order for our children to one day safely wander it again > > I cannot believe the tone on this board, to be exactly Johnny Wessels > repeated vigilatism, incitement whatever one must call it. > "one of gratitude to the police for actually being PRO-ACTIVE in > keepin the slime UNDER CONTROL ON OUR BEHALF." > Who are you Johnny, the law? The government? Pro-active police? When > they beat people up? > POSITIVE SPIN? > Do you really not understand the concept of law and order? Condoning a > violent police force, actually welcoming that, is totally not > acceptable. Calling it a preventative measure? > This is so warped, it is quite amazing. > Oh, and please, nobody come now and tell me Johnny was emotional, and > that's why he talks like this, it's plainly his attitude and you > should be ashamed if you support him. > I am part of this NHW just as much as Johnny is and I resent him > talking about: "WE", when he says: "We always endeavor to rather deter > crime as opposed to reacting to it." > Or who the hell are you referring to? > If anything or anyone should be banned from posting here, it's Johnny > Wessels' fascist comments. In the interest of a respectable > neighbourhood watch. > Melanie > > > >> Hi Camilla, although these kind of scenes which you have witnessed are >> unfortunate and you would much rather not have layed eyes on such an >> event, your reaction after having recovered emotionally, should be one >> of >> gratitude to the police for actually being pro-active in keeping the >> slime >> under control on our behalf. i do sympathize with you, but let us put a >> positive spin in this unpleasant experience of yours. >> >> the cops were out there, they apprehended those who broke the law and >> made >> them understand in no uncertain terms that their actions would not be >> tolerated. let us be grateful for their presence. if those perpetrators >> did not break the law, they would not have had to endure such hardships, >> so they essentially brought it upon themselves. take consolation from >> that >> camilla. what we should hope for is that the SAPS's reaction to those >> crimes are publicised in such a big way that it might hopefully reach >> even >> one potential criminal and who knows,..possible act as a preventative >> measure. >> we always endeavour to rather deter crime as opposed to reacting to it. >> >> hope you are ok >> >> regards >> jw >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I have witnessed two incidents where police used what appeared to be >> > unseemly force, in both instances *after* successfully making arrests. >> > Both were outside my house in Woodstock, in the early hours of the >> > morning. In the first, a handcuffed perp on his knees was being >> > repeatedly sprayed in the face with pepper spray. He was a drunk/high >> > driver who had been trying to evade arrest and came to a stop by >> > crashing into a neighbour's car. In the second, a guy had apparently >> > been caught breaking into a car. He was struck repeatedly before being >> > loaded into the van. He was crying out but at the time I didn't take >> > it too seriously, until I saw a pool of his blood on the street in the >> > morning. I also took the view that I had walked in halfway through the >> > incident and didn't know what had led to it. But it still made me very >> > uneasy. I did consider approaching the ICD on both occasions. I'm not >> > sure what we should do in those instances? I was thrilled to see the >> > police officers succeed in making arrests and taking dangerous people >> > off the street, but I felt and still feel uneasy standing by while >> > subdued villains get assaulted. 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