In the short time that OBSCID has been around, it is great to see the improvement in our streets, they are cleaner for a start. The Local homeless people seem to have disappeared and become a thing of the past. I note on Tuesdays that when the garbage is put out there are fewer people rummaging in the bins. One no longer hears the wonderfully foul vocabulary being screamed in the street, from one drunk to the next. The street security is very visible during the day.
What is the position with getting the graffiti painted off the walls, I see at 35 Campbell Street the graffiti painted on the wall "APEMAN" is still there and has not been painted over, this has been on this wall for over a year. To all in OBSCID keep up the good work. Regards Doug -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Swart Sent: 03 January 2010 12:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [obsnw] Re: Moderation at the Obs ID newsgroup = censorship?? The Obscid is in its infant stages and already there is a difference. One only has to take a walk around Obs to see that our streets are cleaner than they have ever been, the security company they employ has cleared the streets of illegal car guards and many other nuisance factors. Other plans like recycling are on the cards, these projects will come to pass. I feel rather than complain, send in your suggestions for a better Obs, and if your neighbour does not have access to the group why not send their sugestions and comments for them. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Hoffman" <[email protected]> To: "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: [obsnw] Re: Moderation at the Obs ID newsgroup = censorship?? >I don't know what is so hard to understand about H. Schultz' very > valid arguments. > This group only reaches a few people, those who > a) have internet access (and there are many people alone in this road, > Strubens, who do not have regular internet access), > b) have the time or inclination to participate in this group. > > What H. Schultz says is: > > "The answer is not to increase the number of subscribers to this site > but to ensure that the > entity using public money seeks to engage with everybody in the area, > not only those who have the time and inclination to participate in > this forum. " > "Communication needs to be informative to promote accountability to > those of us who are subject to the charges, whether we are part of > the > organisation or not. " > > I quite agree with that. > I don't have to go be part of every entity that spends my money, but > the entity needs to make sure I get informed, and a moderated (still > scary) online chat group is not enough. The Obslife is unfortunately a > sad little brochure with a whole lot of advertising and a few > articles, which may or may not arrive at our doorsteps. > I think the Obsid should have a budget for communication, and think > about how to really reach the scores of people who are paying monthly, > otherwise long-term, there will only be discourse. > > A lot of people don't have the time to attend meetings, and they > shouldn't feel bad about it either, it has nothing to do with the > accountability of the obsid. > H Schultz does not have to provide alternative suggestions, the point > is being made that it is the onus of the obsid, not of the individual > funder. > > Observatory residents not only "deserve to be appraised of how their > money is spent" - it's a core duty of the Cid. "Those involved and > working hard", chose to do so, and people signing the forms and > agreeing to pay a monthly amount, is an equal contribution and > commitment. > > my opinion > melanie > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en Disclaimer http://www.shopriteholdings.co.za/pages/1019812640/disclaimer/E-mail-Disclaimer.asp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en
