*Hi Sasha, What you tell us still shocks me and I have been living in Obs for close to 25 years. Then there were no bars, clubs, drunks or many of the other problems you referred to. Its not true that we always had them.
Its nearly a month ago when my neighbour wrote many e-mails to head of departments demanding answers who and how liquor licences were granted to a mainly residential area which has no infrastructure for the cars, parking, sewage and otherwise. This was off the Google sites and thus not public. As result we have since seen cluster exercises on the 6th of March and the last weekend. I went out into the streets on the 6th from 19:00 till 05:00 the next morning and was appalled which what confronted me. Music was unbearable excessive loud, fights of groups of people with knives, urinating without shame, laughing at the cops out there who were there to uphold the law it was too much for me. Sasha I don't really hear the music from where I stay, but I do hear the revellers, cars, breaking bottles and find body traps the next day. This all propelled me into action as I'm disgusted with all this unsocial behaviour and devaluation of property prices and I joined NAG the Noise Action Group and other initiatives to turn the tide. Also I started a small Google site which is not quite ready - or approved - to be launched but it seems (like another neighbour said) "Now is the time". Please go to Noise Action Group - NAG<http://groups.google.co.za/group/NoiseActionGroup>and bookmark this site. It is not a chat site but aims to provide the tools to make sure that the clubs, pubs and bars keep their licences with our support or loose their licences as simple as that. There have been meetings in the past weeks with the SAPS Woodstock Station Commander, DPO Officer, CPF and many other roll players and we need to support these initiatives and authorities. This I intend doing by keeping a register and records and filing warning, pressing for fines and at last resort insist on closure of these pubs, clubs or bars who cannot or will not co-exist in what is primarily a residential area. You will find also links with reference to sites to help us to fight for OUR RIGHTS. Will you help us to help yourself? And what about all the others who have kept quiet and been outshouted by most likely outsiders. PLEASE JOIN THE "NOISE ACTION GROUP"<http://groups.google.co.za/group/NoiseActionGroup>NAGNow and play your part. Keep tuning in we intend showing reality movies taken at 05:00 with warning for the faint at heart. Kind Regards, Frank Schuitemaker * On 29 March 2010 17:32, sascha <[email protected]> wrote: > I am strongly considering moving on from Obs. I have simply had enough > of the nocturnal scene - the world outside (specifically on the Reload/ > Groove Lounge etc... stretch this Friday and Saturday night sounded > positively apocolyptic. > > There was a woman screaming like a banshee in the parking lot behind > our house (behind Trump Towers), there were people schreeching tyres > and yelling, smashing bottles, dumping trash in noisy metal cannisters > and revving motorbikes and car engines.A constant din of voices, > shouting and laughing in the street carried on all night - as it does > EVERY weekend. > > The mixture of at least five different strains of music (so loud I had > to turn up my TV to hear it properly) became even louder as the night > wore on. Of course, around four in the morning the shouting and > swearing and pissing and bottle throwing starts in the road (Trill) as > people weave their drunken ways back into their cars so as to drive at > outrageous speeds the wrong way up roads, over our pets and out in to > the night to kill themselves and others on the their way home. > > Saturday night my husband was out and got home at about midnight. A > man and a woman were having a physical fight in the street outside our > house and he was physically threatened when he tried to intervene - > luckily a Vetus Schola patroller happened around the corner at that > moment. > > Why is Cozy Bar open again? I thought they were closed down and denied > a licence to operate further based on the previous contraventions? > > Where are the police when these drunk people fall out onto the street > to vandalise property, disturb the peace and drive drunk. Yes - I do > hear them sometimes - pipping their sirens and talking over their > loudspeakers but I have given up calling them to intervene as it has > no effect. > > I thought that these bars and clubs were meant to be silent from the > outside now : doors closed when playing loud music, bar shut by 4am. > Good things were happening at one point - things quietened down and it > was looking like the tide had turned. Its back to bad. > > Why do we have to have drug-turf wars that result in stabbings right > here in the midst of where we live. You might choose it but I do not. > Would you accept this if it happened in the day? > > I know that there are plenty of people who have spent time and energy > on trying to get these bars and clubs to tow the line. I cant > understand why the few steps forward we take are always followed by > those same steps back. > > What can be done to fix this problem? How can I try and ensure that > walking outside my front door will not result in a broken bottle over > the head, how can I stop these places that are not invested in the > sustainability of Obs, from robbing me of my sleep every weekend (incl > but not as bad on Thursday and Sunday nights). If I beat the OBSID > clean-up team onto the pavements on a Saturday morning, how can I know > that I will not have to ask my two year old son to pick his way > through the glass, cigarette butts and litter as we walk towards a > place where I can get a much-needed strong coffee. Do they people who > left this mess behind even live here? Why do we have to drive through > a seedy alleyway of dark,dingy clubs filled with drinkers at 2pm on a > Sunday afternoon? > > These are the thoughts that I lie awake with on weekend nights as I > contemplate where I can move to and how soon. > > We are doing much to clean up Obs by day. I am seeing the improvements > and I am believing in the results. I dont even know if OBSID has the > financial resources or the power to sort out our night-time hell. What > can be done? A study of how SeaPoint and town got rid of their drug > and alcohol offenders? A task team? Partnership between business, > police and OBSID? > > Or do I just have to move? I have lain awake at night asking these > questions for too long.Maybe I am just too tired to see this thing > from any other perspective right now? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to obsnw+ > unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE > ME" as the subject. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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