Front page of People's Post 30 March is all about the noise and the clubs.........
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Sascha Polkey <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear James > > I am heartened to report that I have had some wonderful contact from the > community. > > I am willing to assist in taking action. > > In a letter from Frank - he suggested that I mobilise some of my neighbours > - I have these people ready to go! > > Henk - please let me know how I can assist NAG - I am also happy to write > letters and lobby local government. > > Thanks so much for making me feel like I am more than a collection of cross > thoughts in the night! > > All the best > Sascha > > > > On 2010/03/30 01:32 AM, James Cowley wrote: > > Hi Sasha > I live further off from that scene you are affected by, but I became > active, as it is just not right to see my birthplace and other's interest > nackered. > We have to do something. Possitive action from concerned people will make > the difference. > We need to set that tone. > We need to take back Obs and prepare it for the next generation. > Let's make the difference and support the inititiaves currently at hand > dealing with this scourge you so well noted and reported on. > Its all in the wolf we feed, Wolf Apathy will bring about more mahem. Wolf > Active will bear possitive fruit. > Sympathetic to your dilemma. > Kind regards > James > > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Frank Schuitemaker < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *Hi Sasha, > > What you tell us still shocks me and I have been living in Obs for close to > 25 years. Then there were no bars, clubs, drunks or many of the other > problems you referred to. Its not true that we always had them. > > Its nearly a month ago when my neighbour wrote many e-mails to head of > departments demanding answers who and how liquor licences were granted to a > mainly residential area which has no infrastructure for the cars, parking, > sewage and otherwise. This was off the Google sites and thus not public. As > result we have since seen cluster exercises on the 6th of March and the last > weekend. I went out into the streets on the 6th from 19:00 till 05:00 the > next morning and was appalled which what confronted me. Music was unbearable > excessive loud, fights of groups of people with knives, urinating without > shame, laughing at the cops out there who were there to uphold the law it > was too much for me. > > Sasha I don't really hear the music from where I stay, but I do hear the > revellers, cars, breaking bottles and find body traps the next day. This all > propelled me into action as I'm disgusted with all this unsocial behaviour > and devaluation of property prices and I joined NAG the Noise Action Group > and other initiatives to turn the tide. > > Also I started a small Google site which is not quite ready - or approved - > to be launched but it seems (like another neighbour said) "Now is the time". > Please go to Noise Action Group - > NAG<http://groups.google.co.za/group/NoiseActionGroup>and bookmark this site. > It is not a chat site but aims to provide the tools > to make sure that the clubs, pubs and bars keep their licences with our > support or loose their licences as simple as that. > > There have been meetings in the past weeks with the SAPS Woodstock Station > Commander, DPO Officer, CPF and many other roll players and we need to > support these initiatives and authorities. This I intend doing by keeping a > register and records and filing warning, pressing for fines and at last > resort insist on closure of these pubs, clubs or bars who cannot or will not > co-exist in what is primarily a residential area. You will find also links > with reference to sites to help us to fight for OUR RIGHTS. > > Will you help us to help yourself? And what about all the others who have > kept quiet and been outshouted by most likely outsiders. > > PLEASE JOIN THE "NOISE ACTION > GROUP"<http://groups.google.co.za/group/NoiseActionGroup>NAGNow and play your > part. Keep tuning in we intend showing reality movies > taken at 05:00 with warning for the faint at heart. > > Kind Regards, > > Frank Schuitemaker > * > > > On 29 March 2010 17:32, sascha <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am strongly considering moving on from Obs. I have simply had enough > of the nocturnal scene - the world outside (specifically on the Reload/ > Groove Lounge etc... stretch this Friday and Saturday night sounded > positively apocolyptic. > > There was a woman screaming like a banshee in the parking lot behind > our house (behind Trump Towers), there were people schreeching tyres > and yelling, smashing bottles, dumping trash in noisy metal cannisters > and revving motorbikes and car engines.A constant din of voices, > shouting and laughing in the street carried on all night - as it does > EVERY weekend. > > The mixture of at least five different strains of music (so loud I had > to turn up my TV to hear it properly) became even louder as the night > wore on. Of course, around four in the morning the shouting and > swearing and pissing and bottle throwing starts in the road (Trill) as > people weave their drunken ways back into their cars so as to drive at > outrageous speeds the wrong way up roads, over our pets and out in to > the night to kill themselves and others on the their way home. > > Saturday night my husband was out and got home at about midnight. A > man and a woman were having a physical fight in the street outside our > house and he was physically threatened when he tried to intervene - > luckily a Vetus Schola patroller happened around the corner at that > moment. > > Why is Cozy Bar open again? I thought they were closed down and denied > a licence to operate further based on the previous contraventions? > > Where are the police when these drunk people fall out onto the street > to vandalise property, disturb the peace and drive drunk. Yes - I do > hear them sometimes - pipping their sirens and talking over their > loudspeakers but I have given up calling them to intervene as it has > no effect. > > I thought that these bars and clubs were meant to be silent from the > outside now : doors closed when playing loud music, bar shut by 4am. > Good things were happening at one point - things quietened down and it > was looking like the tide had turned. Its back to bad. > > Why do we have to have drug-turf wars that result in stabbings right > here in the midst of where we live. You might choose it but I do not. > Would you accept this if it happened in the day? > > I know that there are plenty of people who have spent time and energy > on trying to get these bars and clubs to tow the line. I cant > understand why the few steps forward we take are always followed by > those same steps back. > > What can be done to fix this problem? How can I try and ensure that > walking outside my front door will not result in a broken bottle over > the head, how can I stop these places that are not invested in the > sustainability of Obs, from robbing me of my sleep every weekend (incl > but not as bad on Thursday and Sunday nights). If I beat the OBSID > clean-up team onto the pavements on a Saturday morning, how can I know > that I will not have to ask my two year old son to pick his way > through the glass, cigarette butts and litter as we walk towards a > place where I can get a much-needed strong coffee. Do they people who > left this mess behind even live here? Why do we have to drive through > a seedy alleyway of dark,dingy clubs filled with drinkers at 2pm on a > Sunday afternoon? > > These are the thoughts that I lie awake with on weekend nights as I > contemplate where I can move to and how soon. > > We are doing much to clean up Obs by day. I am seeing the improvements > and I am believing in the results. I dont even know if OBSID has the > financial resources or the power to sort out our night-time hell. What > can be done? A study of how SeaPoint and town got rid of their drug > and alcohol offenders? A task team? Partnership between business, > police and OBSID? > > Or do I just have to move? I have lain awake at night asking these > questions for too long.Maybe I am just too tired to see this thing > from any other perspective right now? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to obsnw+ > unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE > ME" as the subject. > > > > > -- > > > *Sascha Polkey > Director > Rabbit in a Hat Communications * > > [image: logo] > > *021 447 3197 or 8 > 083 414 0552 * > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to obsnw+ > unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE > ME" as the subject. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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