All Obs said was it was not connected to the festival - Obs is not in denial
that it took place in their space.  newspapers (unfortunately) said it WAS
the festival. This is inaccurate.  Your comments are noted but not
appreciated.  I speak for myself only as a resident in Obs.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Teun Baartman <[email protected]>wrote:

> •       “The incident occurred well after the Observatory Festival of Arts
> had shut down for the evening. “
> •       “Over to SAPS. “
> •       “Having looked at the facts we feel that this incident was
> unrelated
> to the festival – having happened both outside of the festival borders
> and many hours after the festival had dispersed.”
> •       “ the murder was linked to gang activity in the Salt River area and
> involved drugs.”
> •       “We don’t believe the festival was the cause of the murder. The
> incident took place outside our perimeter, after the festival”
>
> These are some of the quotes from Observatory community members here
> and in the press reacting to the terrible happenings at the Obs
> Festival last weekend. One can clearly see the common trend: everybody
> and everything else is blamed and nobody in Observatory takes
> responsibility. Denialism is king in Obs.
>
> Things will never improve in Observatory if the residents and
> community keep on having this “ostrich mentality”.
>
> The Observatory community should take responsibility and say: “this
> happened in our area and on our watch – the only people who are going
> to make a change here are
> we, the people living in this area.”
>
>
> On Dec 6, 10:40 pm, "Alan & Aparna" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>  > God Trevor.  What a disturbing and distressing account.  We stayed
> > away from the festival due to the perception that it was the same
> > story - a giant multi-day festival that would attract plenty of people
> > wanting to stir up s%^t and get wasted; unlike the old 1 day festival.
> >
> > Whether fair or not (and probably not, I'll grant) I can't help but
> > associate this incident with the festival - as I'm sure many others
> > will.  Will that not mean that more good people will stay away from
> > it, and more bad people will see it as their playground?
> >
> > More to the point it leaves me feeling very depressed about our
> > police.  A story like this makes me think that they're broken as a
> > force.  I don't blame our Woodstock officers for that.  They are
> > responding to the training and example they've been given.  And
> > they're naturally warm and helpful human beings from 80% of my
> > experience with them.  But this scene you paint, makes me think
> > they've been given all the wrong protocols and training.
> >
> > I was already starting to hear from acquaintances - some even who live
> > in townships with huge crime rates far in excess of Observatory's -
> > that they perceive Obs as a dangerous place.
> >
> > I don't quite know what I want to say except that this is seriously
> > depressing stuff.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Dec 6, 1:08 pm, Trevor Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have read various online reports, twitter reports, newspaper reports
> > > (Cape Times, Voice, Argus) and with the exception of the typical Voice
> > > headline and pictures, found the reporting to be objective and fair.
> > > This is based on my own witnessing of the event shortly after the
> > > stabbing took place.
> >
> > > One thing that appalled me and has not been reported on was the
> > > complete disarray that the members of the SAP were in. Once would
> > > thing a stabbing woudl be a fairly routine matter for them.
> >
> > > When I arrived on the scene shortly after the incident, Andrew was
> > > still alive - dying but alive. I saw not one policeman render
> > > assistance as he was bleeding out.
> >
> > > They were running arround like headless chickens - soulless headless
> > > chickens not displaying an ounce of humanity to the dying victim.
> >
> > > Finally I saw a lady render some assistance - too late to make a
> > > difference. Whether prompt first aid assistance from the SAPS (or
> > > anyone) would have made a difference to the outcome I cannot say, but
> > > that it did not happen was extemely sad.
> >
> > > Hilton Malila had only a comment to make about the SAP could not
> > > render medical assistance as they were not trained for it. Malila
> > > himself was on the scene. His car splattered with blood.
> >
> > > The police were more worried with trying to set up a crime tape than
> > > rendering assistance to the victim. There was a captain there who
> > > seemed more concerned to stop people taking pictures and to threaten
> > > to arrest them than render assistance.
> >
> > > Yes I observed with sadness from behind the tape, aghast that nothing
> > > was been done - not doing anything myself - knowing I would react with
> > > anger and outrage should a policeman have laid a finger on me in any
> > > attempt to cross the line - so I remained a spectator. Wondering if it
> > > was I lying there whether the same lack of concern would be metered
> > > out by the SAP.
> >
> > > Not only did Andrew bleed to death on that pavement, Obs was
> > > hemorrhaging as well.
> >
> > > No matter what Andrew did or was alleged to have been or where he was
> > > from, he was human first and did not deserve to die in a gutter in
> > > Observatory.
> >
> > > Trev
>
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