I have lived in this suburb for nearly 23 years now.  When I first moved here 
it was lovely, with a gentle atmosphere that was full of charm.  As the waves 
(and I do mean waves) of crime and grime hit, so did the suburb change and 
living sometimes felt like an obstacle course.  Not only is this suburb safer 
and cleaner now, there is a greater sense of community too, of which this 
Google group is ample testimony.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Raphael 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:12 PM
  Subject: FW: [obsnw] Re: Intriguing by line on the cover of Big Issue


  I think Reinmar poses an interesting question:

   

  “A person stays in one suburb for 25 years and see the change happening from 
good and safe suburb, to bad, ugly and violent

  suburb, and then slowly back to good and safe suburb.  And then objects to 
the measures taken to make it a safe suburb.  With society

  also rapidly changing in 25 years, it cannot be the same suburbs as 25 years 
ago.  I find this intriguing.”

   

  Take care,

   

  David

   

  David Raphael

   072 065 7223



   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Reinmar
  Sent: 17 October 2011 16:20
  To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch
  Subject: [obsnw] Re: Intriguing by line on the cover of Big Issue

   

  In response to subsequent posts I would just like to clarify the

  following in my personal capacity, whilst not trying to win, lose,

  praise, complain about any party / person involved, or not to waffle

  to much – so if you consider this as waffling – then please do not

  read further.

   

  I did not know, and neither did anybody inform me, up until today that

  Ms Shultz has been living in Obs for 25 years, which actually

  intrigues me.  A person stays in one suburb for 25 years and see the

  change happening from good and safe suburb, to bad, ugly and violent

  suburb, and then slowly back to good and safe suburb.  And then

  objects to the measures taken to make it a safe suburb.  With society

  also rapidly changing in 25 years, it cannot be the same suburbs as 25

  years ago.  I find this intriguing.

   

  I completely object to bad treatment of homeless in Obz and anywhere

  in the world.  And if there were any “disgusting” treatment, I’m sure

  that investigations by both ObsID and VS will bring to light these

  situations and deal with them properly.  I however remain positive

  about Kenneth’s interactions with the homeless and with the success

  he’s had, with they’re consent and approval.

   

  I’m completely at ease with the small amount of people controlling a

  huge amount of money – our money, as they are doing a brilliant job

  controlling it and using it to the advantage the suburb.

   

  Since my previous post, I have gone out and gotten my own copy of the

  Big Issue, and have read the article in colour, and I still find it as

  previously stated in my personal opinion.

   

  I agree, let the greater public be the judge – but in the end it’s OUR

  suburb that gets that bad rap and affects everyone that’s living in it

  - Each single individual person.

   

  But sorry – I’m waffling about the greater good and all the nonsense –

  I shall stop and do some decent old grafting.

  Les gens au revoir et ont une merveilleuse journée

  Reinmar

   

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