Hello all
Many people are unaware of or uninformed about what seems to be a serious breakdown of trust and cooperation between the police, the authorities responsible for CPFs in our area, and the struggling Woodstock CPF. Residents are unlikely to act or attend meetings unless they are informed. Would it not help if someone were to put together a background report, and forward this to the press (so that it reaches the wider public)?
Regards
Ron

On 2012/04/26 07:22, Teun Baartman wrote:
Even though I will probably open myself up to accusations of being motivated by "sour grapes", I would like to make some comments.

The whole debacle surrounding the dissolving of Woodstock CPF has made me even more convinced than I was at the time of my resignation as chairperson that the CPF structures are NOT working to create a proper channel for oversight by community over police. The CPFs have increasingly been bogged down by all kinds of administrative demands and SAPS have become increasingly unresponsive. SAPS can unilaterally decide to withhold information from CPFs and have become very good in sending CPFs from pillar to post without them achieving anything. SAPS is playing games with CPFs. CPFs have become no more than window dressing for SAPS to show that they have community support when necessary.

The higher CPF structures are supporting this development and are probably not even aware of it, because they are blinded by their positions, "power" and "influence".

I my view, and I have stated this before, community organisations should go back to basics and hold the police to account and challenge SAPS outside of CPF structures. If they stand together they can not be ignored, never mind a CPF. But be organised in our own precinct and don't worry about the rest.

Regards
Teun


On 25 April 2012 12:59, Trevor Hughes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I think we should descend on this AGM en mass and disrupt it

    By disrupt I mean something along the lines of arriving and nominating
    the same cabal (because lets face it who else is there) and then after
    being elected immediately resign in protest.

    Or we can just heckle and have some fun.

    An AGM implies there is a functional organisation and committee -
    which there was until Hanif Loomat started throwing his weight.

    Does anybody have his email address.

    If this is an AGM then 20 days notice does not cut it and I suggest
    that should be the first port of call in getting it postponed until we
    actually know what is going on and proper notice is received. I would
    have thought the first people to know would be the current committee.
    I have not been directly informed that I am no longer a member of this
    committee so Hanif is just as short on protocol and procedure than he
    claims the WCPF was.

    I will be there.

    Trevor Hughes



    On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Rob Gaylard <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > Just in case you missed it, in today's People's Post there is a news
    > item re. an AGM of the CPF to be held on 15 May. The venue has
    yet to
    > be decided, and the news item comes from the Woodstock Police. The
    > invitation is directed to "all organisations, NGOs, businesses,
    > churches and community-based structures". Would-be members are asked
    > to collect application forms fron Sgt Malila.
    >
    > [N.B. The constitution says that membership is "open to community-
    > based organisations or institutions in the community". Does this
    > include businesses?]
    >
    > Rather Surprisingly, it doesn't state whether the current CPF
    has been
    > annulled or dissolved This can in fact only be doe by the ProvonciaL
    > Commissioner, after engaging in the dispute-resolution mechanisms
    > provided for in the Constitution. Has this been done? It also
    makes no
    > mention of allegations by Hanif Loomat (Chair of thE WC Community
    > Policing Board) that the present (or past?) CPF was being run by a
    > "cabal".
    >
    > Can anyone throw any light on what is happening?
    >
    > Rob Gaylard
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