Please keep us all informed of exact date and time. Even though I am close to retiring, I'd love a return to my student days at Rhodes where we were passed masters at heckling!
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello all > Many people are unaware of or uninformed about what seems to be a serious > breakdown of trust and cooperation between the police, the authorities > responsible for CPFs in our area, and the struggling Woodstock CPF. > Residents are unlikely to act or attend meetings unless they are informed. > Would it not help if someone were to put together a background report, and > forward this to the press (so that it reaches the wider public)? > Regards > Ron > > On 2012/04/26 07:22, Teun Baartman wrote: > > Even though I will probably open myself up to accusations of being > motivated by "sour grapes", I would like to make some comments. > > The whole debacle surrounding the dissolving of Woodstock CPF has made > me even more convinced than I was at the time of my resignation as > chairperson that the CPF structures are NOT working to create a proper > channel for oversight by community over police. > The CPFs have increasingly been bogged down by all kinds of administrative > demands and SAPS have become increasingly unresponsive. SAPS can > unilaterally decide to withhold information from CPFs and have become very > good in sending CPFs from pillar to post without them achieving anything. > SAPS is playing games with CPFs. > CPFs have become no more than window dressing for SAPS to show that they > have community support when necessary. > > The higher CPF structures are supporting this development and are > probably not even aware of it, because they are blinded by their positions, > "power" and "influence". > > I my view, and I have stated this before, community organisations should > go back to basics and hold the police to account and challenge SAPS outside > of CPF structures. If they stand together they can not be ignored, never > mind a CPF. But be organised in our own precinct and don't worry about the > rest. > > Regards > Teun > > > On 25 April 2012 12:59, Trevor Hughes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think we should descend on this AGM en mass and disrupt it >> >> By disrupt I mean something along the lines of arriving and nominating >> the same cabal (because lets face it who else is there) and then after >> being elected immediately resign in protest. >> >> Or we can just heckle and have some fun. >> >> An AGM implies there is a functional organisation and committee - >> which there was until Hanif Loomat started throwing his weight. >> >> Does anybody have his email address. >> >> If this is an AGM then 20 days notice does not cut it and I suggest >> that should be the first port of call in getting it postponed until we >> actually know what is going on and proper notice is received. I would >> have thought the first people to know would be the current committee. >> I have not been directly informed that I am no longer a member of this >> committee so Hanif is just as short on protocol and procedure than he >> claims the WCPF was. >> >> I will be there. >> >> Trevor Hughes >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Rob Gaylard <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Just in case you missed it, in today's People's Post there is a news >> > item re. an AGM of the CPF to be held on 15 May. The venue has yet to >> > be decided, and the news item comes from the Woodstock Police. The >> > invitation is directed to "all organisations, NGOs, businesses, >> > churches and community-based structures". Would-be members are asked >> > to collect application forms fron Sgt Malila. >> > >> > [N.B. The constitution says that membership is "open to community- >> > based organisations or institutions in the community". Does this >> > include businesses?] >> > >> > Rather Surprisingly, it doesn't state whether the current CPF has been >> > annulled or dissolved This can in fact only be doe by the ProvonciaL >> > Commissioner, after engaging in the dispute-resolution mechanisms >> > provided for in the Constitution. Has this been done? It also makes no >> > mention of allegations by Hanif Loomat (Chair of thE WC Community >> > Policing Board) that the present (or past?) CPF was being run by a >> > "cabal". >> > >> > Can anyone throw any light on what is happening? >> > >> > Rob Gaylard >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. >> > >> > > > > -- > Teun Baartman > 083 298 1009 > 021 448 3584 > > Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail!! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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