On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 07:13:55PM +0100, Olaf Till wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 02:33:25PM +0000, Carnë Draug wrote:
> > On 24 November 2011 13:14, Lukas Reichlin <lukas.reich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 24.11.2011, at 13:53, Carnë Draug wrote:
> > >> On 24 November 2011 08:07, Lukas Reichlin <lukas.reich...@gmail.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> On 20.11.2011, at 22:11, Carnë Draug wrote:
> > >>>> 2011/11/20 Lukas Reichlin <lukas.reich...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>> On 20.11.2011, at 21:11, Carnë Draug wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> a recent change in octave core (in pkg.m and news.m) will allows 
> > >>>>>> users
> > >>>>>> to read the NEWS file of packages from the octave prompt too. For
> > >>>>>> example, news("signal") would show the NEWS from the signal package
> > >>>>>> instead of the core NEWS.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> For the new functionality to happen, the NEWS file needs to be in the
> > >>>>>> root of the package. However, some of the packages in octave-forge
> > >>>>>> have this file in doc/. As such, I'm moving them.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Other less common files that pkg recognizes during package
> > >>>>>> installation are ONEWS (for when the NEWS file becomes too long) and
> > >>>>>> ChangeLog (a much more detailed description of changes on each
> > >>>>>> release. Something like the output of svn log).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Carnë
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Carnë
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The control package is one of these. Go ahead, but please make sure 
> > >>>>> that the Makefile is adapted accordingly such that the NEWS file 
> > >>>>> doesn't get lost by installation.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Lukas
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Well remembered. Most packages don't have one, I had forgot about it.
> > >>>> Should be fixed now. Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Carnë
> > >>>
> > >>> I downloaded the GNU Tarball from [1] and installed the package. 
> > >>> Unfortunately, the NEWS file still gets lost upon package installation. 
> > >>> Could you please fix that?
> > >>>
> > >>> Lukas
> > >>>
> > >>> PS: IIRC I had similar problems some time ago. This must have been the 
> > >>> reason why I put NEWS into /doc.
> > >>
> > >> What version are you using? This will only work in 3.6.0 (should be
> > >> release pretty soon) or currently in the dev version. If you want to
> > >> test it without compiling the dev version, you can replace the pkg.m
> > >> and news.m files from you current installation
> > >>
> > >> http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/file/c3c8f513cf1f/scripts/pkg/pkg.m
> > >> http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/file/c3c8f513cf1f/scripts/miscellaneous/news.m
> > >>
> > >> You need to use the modified pkg because it identifies the NEWS file
> > >> and moves it into the packinfo dir. The modified news then allows you
> > >> read the news from the prompt.
> > >>
> > >> Carnë
> > >
> > > I'm using 3.4.3. Is there a way to tell Octave 3.4 that it should move 
> > > NEWS to packinfo upon installation? Currently NEWS gets lost (neither 
> > > control-2.2.1/ nor control-2.2.1/doc nor control-2.2.1/packinfo) and I 
> > > would like to have a solution for Octave 3.4 series. (I'd like to provide 
> > > 3.4 users with the NEWS file and I don't want to increase the required 
> > > octave version to 3.6 just because of that.)
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help,
> > > Lukas
> > 
> > Hmm... When I made that change I just assumed that the only time
> > people look into the doc directory is after downloading the package
> > before installation. I didn't even knew the doc directory was being
> > copied during install until I looked into pkg to add support for this.
> > My worries was that users would stop seeing this information now that
> > they can use -forge to install packages without downloading it
> > themselves.
> > 
> > For your question, one solution is to move NEWS back to doc/ and use
> > post_install.m to move the file to packinfo. However, another plan I
> > have later is to make a patch that will make pkg offer to show the
> > NEWS file after install if a NEWS file is identified. If you do this,
> > the NEWS file won't be seen by pkg and it wouldn't "offer" to show it.
> > But this doesn't exist yet...
> > 
> > Another idea which I like more is to have the NEWS file in both the
> > root directory and use post_install.m to remove the file from doc if
> > version > 3.6.0.
> > 
> > Carnë
> 
> One could try to use autoconf to detect the Octave version and copy
> the NEWS file, but that is probably too much work for this issue.
> 
> Wouldn't a symlink do the trick? I.e. make NEWs in doc/ be a symlink
> to ../packinfo/NEWS (which is dangling while in the SVN repository,
> but should be valid after installation)?
> 
> Olaf

Oh, the last was nonsense of me ... sorry, forget it, please ...

Olaf

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