On Jan 5, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> The RC7 vote is a little confusing. Since there are a number of other
> projects that are interested in the ODF Toolkit, we cc'ed them all in
> the vote thread, along with this list and the Incubator general list.
> That, coupled with this being our first release, has lead to a "messy"
> voting thread.  For example:
> 
> 1) We have a +1 from Yegor, but that made it only to the Tika dev list
> 
> http://markmail.org/message/4syron6anolleqlk
> 
> 2) We have several +1's from PPMC members here on odf-dev
> 
> 3) We have one +1 from a PPMC member to odf-private
> 
> 4) We have no +1's from IPMC members on this list or on the Incubator
> general list :-(

Yegor is on the IPMC. Mentors must be on the IPMC. He did not state that his 
vote was "binding" - but I *think* that is implicit.

BTW - I've just been elected to the IPMC to be a Mentor for Apache Flex.

> 
> My guess is the cc'ing to multiple lists may have caused some confusion.

It certainly did.

> 
> What is the best practice here?  Send to only to general@incubator and
> cc odf-dev?  Should we be posting our (non-binding) votes and test
> summaries to general@incubator rather than odf-dev?

What I've seen is that the vote occurs on the project's dev list first. Then a 
vote - results email on odf-dev. Then an IPMC vote on [email protected]. 

In the future if we want to tell other projects about our votes let's make that 
a separate email. IMO a subject like "[FYI] Voting on a release candidate for 
ODFToolkit" would be helpful and clearly not the [VOTE] thread.

Everyone has different filter rules on their mail and are on more than one 
project. Mine came into poi-dev, I guess Yegor has Tika before Poi and ODF on 
his filter list. Let this be a lesson learned about cross posting.a VOTE thread.

> Any ideas on how to get this vote back on track?

Put the results together in a [VOTE][RESULTS] email for odf-dev.

Then send a [VOTE] thread for the IPMC votes to [email protected].

Here's an example from ManifoldCF:

> Hello Incubator IPMC,
> 
> Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating,
> RC2.  This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection.
> You can find the artifact at
> http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or
> in svn at 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2.
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Karl


Wait for the IPMC to vote - theirs are the binding votes.

If they don't like how the vote was run then they'll certainly let us know. If 
you are not subscribed now  to [email protected] you ought to be during the vote.

Does this make sense? Let's turn in our homework even if it is not perfect ;-)

Regards,
Dave,

who has a execstackoverflow in a postscript file to debug plus a work release 
to do in the next couple of days or I would have done more research on this 
question.


> 
> -Rob

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