On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Jan 5, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> The RC7 vote is a little confusing. Since there are a number of other >>> projects that are interested in the ODF Toolkit, we cc'ed them all in >>> the vote thread, along with this list and the Incubator general list. >>> That, coupled with this being our first release, has lead to a "messy" >>> voting thread. For example: >>> >>> 1) We have a +1 from Yegor, but that made it only to the Tika dev list >>> >>> http://markmail.org/message/4syron6anolleqlk >>> >>> 2) We have several +1's from PPMC members here on odf-dev >>> >>> 3) We have one +1 from a PPMC member to odf-private >>> >>> 4) We have no +1's from IPMC members on this list or on the Incubator >>> general list :-( >> >> Yegor is on the IPMC. Mentors must be on the IPMC. He did not state that his >> vote was "binding" - but I *think* that is implicit. >> >> BTW - I've just been elected to the IPMC to be a Mentor for Apache Flex. >> > > Cool. Congratulations.
Thanks ... sorry I haven't spent much time here. > >>> >>> My guess is the cc'ing to multiple lists may have caused some confusion. >> >> It certainly did. >> >>> >>> What is the best practice here? Send to only to general@incubator and >>> cc odf-dev? Should we be posting our (non-binding) votes and test >>> summaries to general@incubator rather than odf-dev? >> >> What I've seen is that the vote occurs on the project's dev list first. Then >> a vote - results email on odf-dev. Then an IPMC vote on [email protected]. >> > > We did that on the initial RC: > > http://markmail.org/message/6qt5igqggkj66e7d > > Then Yegor took a look and found some issues that we needed to fix. > We've been iterating on that since, now up to RC7, which Yegor did > give a +1 to. > > I hope we don't need to have a separate 1 week PPMC vote on each RC, > even if we're making only small changes to address reported issues > from the previous ballot. I thought I saw something on the incubator > general list about just kicking off an IPMC vote in that case, for > subsequent RC's. > >> In the future if we want to tell other projects about our votes let's make >> that a separate email. IMO a subject like "[FYI] Voting on a release >> candidate for ODFToolkit" would be helpful and clearly not the [VOTE] thread. >> >> Everyone has different filter rules on their mail and are on more than one >> project. Mine came into poi-dev, I guess Yegor has Tika before Poi and ODF >> on his filter list. Let this be a lesson learned about cross posting.a VOTE >> thread. >> >>> Any ideas on how to get this vote back on track? >> >> Put the results together in a [VOTE][RESULTS] email for odf-dev. >> > > The weird thing here is we have not received as many PPMC votes as we > did with RC1. I think the impression some have is that their votes > from RC1 still stand, and we're just waiting for IPMC votes now. So > they didn't vote again. With the holidays who knows. > > >> Then send a [VOTE] thread for the IPMC votes to [email protected]. >> >> Here's an example from ManifoldCF: >> >>> Hello Incubator IPMC, >>> >>> Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating, >>> RC2. This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. >>> You can find the artifact at >>> http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or >>> in svn at >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2. >>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>> Karl >> >> >> Wait for the IPMC to vote - theirs are the binding votes. >> >> If they don't like how the vote was run then they'll certainly let us know. >> If you are not subscribed now to [email protected] you ought to be during the >> vote. >> >> Does this make sense? Let's turn in our homework even if it is not perfect >> ;-) >> > > I agree that the above makes sense. This particular instance was a > weird one. It sounds like posting a summary of result to-date of the > RC7 vote, including PPMC votes and mentor votes, to the general list, > with a little explanation, might help. JFDI! Regards, Dave > > >> Regards, >> Dave, >> >> who has a execstackoverflow in a postscript file to debug plus a work >> release to do in the next couple of days or I would have done more research >> on this question. >> >> >>> >>> -Rob >>
