Sorry here is better information for tax part :
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/OFBiz%27s+Tax+Authority+Data+Model
(David and Jacopo are quick guys ;o)

Jacques

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: An observation on Getting Started documentation


> David, all,
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > I notice that the documentation for getting started has recently been split
> > in two, one technical the other business.  This is excellent and makes it
> > much easier to read.
>
> Yes I agree this is a very important point. I would say rather splitting 
> between functionnal and technical concepts (in France we
> would say also "Organic" for the later part because it's only deals with 
> structures and not functions) . But that's only words...
>
> > Reading the Business Setup document I am struck by the way in which it is
> > assumed that the only way to get started is to take the default seed data
> > and modify it, no-where does it describe how to start from scratch.
>
> Yes that's true, but at least there is something to help you, remember it's 
> open source, you may help (acts, acts, acts, ...;o)
here
> of course...
>
> > When this is coupled with the discussion about who OfBiz is aiming at,
> > and which bits of what is a very extensive offering are regarded as basic
> > this has the effect that you end up disabling bits that you do not want
> > rather than enabling the bit that you want.  This also means that there
> > are things that are configured but about which you (the user) know nothing
> > and for which you have no use.
> >
> > Is the subtext that defining from scratch is so complicated that it should
> > never be attempted.  If so perhaps this should be stated.
>
> Easy way, but why not !
>
> > Of 15 pages (when I printed the document) basic company setup talks about
> > how to set up the basic business and occupies just one page, and then about
> > 10 page cover the ecommerce aspects.  Tax is only mentioned as an adjunct of
> > the ecommerce section, and the setup of the accounting section is not even
> > mentioned.
>
> About tax it's even worse : it's obsolete ! Please search for Tax Authotiries 
> in Nabble to know more...
>
> > There is also no mention of localisation.  Getting OfBiz to default to other
> > than the Dollar and American style Sales tax (and I am aware of the recent
> > discussion on VAT on this list) is not mentioned, and worse, it is not
> > mentioned that what is being described is a US model.
>
> Yes that was already raised by Chris Howe here :
> http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28OFBIZ-149%29-Better-describe-complex-party-relationships-tf2082963.html#a5772036
> And I believe also that something is missing in the data model to be able to 
> deal accuratly with VAT for instance. But you are
> already aware of that and I have no solution yet (not even time to think 
> about it)
>
> > Perhaps a further subdivision is needed.  The basic company setup in one
> > document, accounting and localisation issues in a set of documents
> > identified by country (or groups of countries where they do things
> > sufficiently similarly), and then separate documents for the other bits
> > like ecommerce, manufacturing and warehousing.
> >
> > Breaking the documentation up like this may also make it easier to get
> > contributions as the task is less daunting.
> >
> > Just a thought.
>
> Yes good plan, just have to rolling up our sleeves now :o)
>
> Thanks for your interest !
>
> > David
>

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