On Saturday 30 December 2006 15:11, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Sorry here is better information for tax part : > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/OFBiz%27s+Tax+Authority+Data+Model > (David and Jacopo are quick guys ;o) This is excellent "how it works" documentation, but does not tell you how to use it. That would obviously have to be part of the localisation docs.
David > > Jacques > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: An observation on Getting Started documentation > > > David, all, > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > I notice that the documentation for getting started has recently been > > > split in two, one technical the other business. This is excellent and > > > makes it much easier to read. > > > > Yes I agree this is a very important point. I would say rather splitting > > between functionnal and technical concepts (in France we would say also > > "Organic" for the later part because it's only deals with structures and > > not functions) . But that's only words... > > > > > Reading the Business Setup document I am struck by the way in which it > > > is assumed that the only way to get started is to take the default seed > > > data and modify it, no-where does it describe how to start from > > > scratch. > > > > Yes that's true, but at least there is something to help you, remember > > it's open source, you may help (acts, acts, acts, ...;o) > > here > > > of course... > > > > > When this is coupled with the discussion about who OfBiz is aiming at, > > > and which bits of what is a very extensive offering are regarded as > > > basic this has the effect that you end up disabling bits that you do > > > not want rather than enabling the bit that you want. This also means > > > that there are things that are configured but about which you (the > > > user) know nothing and for which you have no use. > > > > > > Is the subtext that defining from scratch is so complicated that it > > > should never be attempted. If so perhaps this should be stated. > > > > Easy way, but why not ! > > > > > Of 15 pages (when I printed the document) basic company setup talks > > > about how to set up the basic business and occupies just one page, and > > > then about 10 page cover the ecommerce aspects. Tax is only mentioned > > > as an adjunct of the ecommerce section, and the setup of the accounting > > > section is not even mentioned. > > > > About tax it's even worse : it's obsolete ! Please search for Tax > > Authotiries in Nabble to know more... > > > > > There is also no mention of localisation. Getting OfBiz to default to > > > other than the Dollar and American style Sales tax (and I am aware of > > > the recent discussion on VAT on this list) is not mentioned, and worse, > > > it is not mentioned that what is being described is a US model. > > > > Yes that was already raised by Chris Howe here : > > http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28OFBIZ-149%29-Better-describe-c > >omplex-party-relationships-tf2082963.html#a5772036 And I believe also that > > something is missing in the data model to be able to deal accuratly with > > VAT for instance. But you are already aware of that and I have no > > solution yet (not even time to think about it) > > > > > Perhaps a further subdivision is needed. The basic company setup in > > > one document, accounting and localisation issues in a set of documents > > > identified by country (or groups of countries where they do things > > > sufficiently similarly), and then separate documents for the other bits > > > like ecommerce, manufacturing and warehousing. > > > > > > Breaking the documentation up like this may also make it easier to get > > > contributions as the task is less daunting. > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Yes good plan, just have to rolling up our sleeves now :o) > > > > Thanks for your interest ! > > > > > David
