Nevertheless want to insist on the fact I am not sold.
So if others feel unconfortable, prefer for us to abstain or vote
against... I am totally fine with that.
Said differently... count me rather in the "undecided - depends on the
hour of the day"
Flo
Le 02/07/2024 à 00:47, Florence Devouard a écrit :
I am going to try to put things into perspective.
I do like any of the two options.
I am not fan of the proposition. For all the reasons already
mentionned. I also think that if it were adopted, it would take
several years before getting implemented, and it would certainly be
amended. I see a long path ahead.
I am not fan of doing nothing either (not ratifying it), as I think it
would send the wrong signal (fully opposed; or not interested)
Being appreciative of the fact we have the right to vote (which not
everyone has...), I thus would rather support we ratify it.
What do others think ?
Flo
Le 26/06/2024 à 21:07, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Well, the two WMF Board liaisons to the committee have suggested that
the Board not ratify it. WMDE and Wikimedia CEE have said they would
vote for it. Others (like JMabel's thoughts I posted in the other
thread) have also shared their takes.
In general many concerns raised on this list a month ago have not
been addressed: the charter has inconsistencies and gaps, but makes
it very hard to amend itself. It mandates that the new Council do
four difficult things all at once, including developing a new
movement-wide strategy. It does not talk about how these tasks
relate to existing movement bodies (like chapters and Projects that
maintain their own priorities, 2030 goals, or annual plans). It has
not addressed input from unaffiliated editors, many of whom said the
current framework over privileges the views and needs of affiliates.
So I understand why the WMF liaisons keep expressing concern and
suggested starting by transitioning a few specific functions.
I also understand why those who have felt held back by stagnating
funding and inconsistent communications with the WMF might feel this
is their only chance to have more say over evolution of collective
priorities. And fear that if this vote doesn't pass right this
instant, there might not be another such opportunity.
I would like to hear what you & others think.
SJ
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 11:13 AM Stephane Coillet-Matillon
<[email protected]> wrote:
It appears that the WMF Board has indicated that they would vote
against the Charter. WMDE published a call in support, and they
seem to be doing some lobbying (I got the
via an official mail from Wikimedia CH; not sure their board has
decided anything yet)
Talk:Movement Charter - Meta
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Deutschland%E2%80%99s_Appeal_to_the_WMF_Board_of_Trustees>
meta.wikimedia.org
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Deutschland%E2%80%99s_Appeal_to_the_WMF_Board_of_Trustees>
community.ico
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Deutschland%E2%80%99s_Appeal_to_the_WMF_Board_of_Trustees>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Deutschland%E2%80%99s_Appeal_to_the_WMF_Board_of_Trustees>
SCM
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