Vista sucks in general.

 

There are many, many things which are slower or harder to do in Vista than
they are in XP. Networking is a classic one... try to get to Control Panel
-> Network Connections so you can change your connection properties without
going through two intermediate popup windows first.

 

And then there are the things which straight out don't work, like searching
your files. Oh sure, if you stick with file extensions that Microsoft like
AND you are lucky enough that your indexing database doesn't get corrupted
then maybe you will be one of the fortunate and it will work, but I gave up
and installed BareGrep after multiple horrific failures to find files using
the Vista search.

 

Or how about connecting to a VPN? Quite common for it to refuse to let you
from the Connect to a network screen because you don't have an internet
connection when you do... however if you go to the cleverly hidden Network
Connections screen (via multiple steps as mentioned above) then the VPN will
connect just fine.

 

I could go on but I think you get the idea. Vista is fine in theory and may
in fact be fantastic for new users of Windows (are there any of them?) but
it sucks for experienced users.

 

David.

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Bird
Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 11:21 a.m.
To: 'Kyley Harris'; 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List'
Subject: Re: [DUG-Offtopic] Horsepower required for Virtual PC

 

Have to ask - what about Vista sucks for you?

 

I have seen it runs a virtual PC just fine - thats my main concern, and one
at a time is enough for me.

 

D2007 under Vista have any issues?  default fonts or themes etc?

 

 

John 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Kyley Harris 

Was running VMWare workstation ,workstation offers the complete best package
of all the suites for a software developer. Most valuable is the cloning,
linked cloning and managed snapshotting.

First I ran it on a P4 laptop that had 1gb ram. I could only run 1 VM guest
XP with a full delphi environment which had about 512 mb ram.. 

next moved to a dual core apple laptop. This allowed me to run a single VM
of XP same as before, but with a huge amount more speed. 1gb for the guest
out of a total 2GB for the host.

now running a QUAD core desktop 64 bit Vista. (Vista sucks) with 8 GB ram.
This easily runs 2-3 GUESTS at the same time running 32bit XP each with 1 or
2GB ram.. I don't tend to ever put more than 712-1gb ram in a guest as its
not needed and slows down the suspend operations a lot.

My virtual machine for development is configured to 1gb ram, and 16gb HDD.
this contains MS SQL desktop edition, and D2007 plus a raft of other stuff
like photoshop etc that i use.. works great. 

I don't do any development outside of a VirtualMachine.. haven't done so for
years.. The only downside is development of Graphics heavy (games etc) type
stuff where the virtual graphics environment is not quite there yet.

Paralells for apple is also a good product, but paralells for windows not so
great last I used it.

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM, John Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I am looking to upgrade my PC as it does not have enough horsepower to run a
MS Virtual PC with XP/ Delphi 7 development environment/MS SQL Server in it.
Current PC is 1GB RAM (Maxed out already), and around a 2.2Ghz AMD Pentium
processor.

 

Does anyone have opinions on the best options:

 

1 - Is VMWare player likely to give better performance?

 

2 - Is MS Virtual PC 2007 more affected by RAM allocated or pure CPU
horsepower?

 

3 - I am looking at some flavour of Vista - Home premium/business/ultimate -
I have worked on a Vista desktop PC which runs this virtual PC easily.

Best looking options so far are either:

 

    a) AMD 64bit Athlon Phenom/Athlon desktop - able to take up to 8GB RAM

    b)Grunty-ish laptop Intel 2.2Ghz Intel Core Duo (Centrino 2)

 

    Any comments or other recommendations.  I am interested in most bang for
the fewest bucks and portable-ish as well.

 

4 - I would also be running D2007 native (ie not in a virtual PC) - any
issues for D2007 with any of the above PC's on any versions of Vista or the
AMD 64bit chips?

Any limitations of Vista Home Premium when connected to work networks?

 

John

 


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