Surely to make OO better they would have to break everything that came before? PHP 4's OO is really, really appalling. So is all that embedding rubbish in the HTML, lack of good database connection management - it came across to me (PHP4) as a language designed by people hacking something together. For the simple reason of its lack of maintainability is simply killing it for me. I have the same problem with writing large AJAX websites in Javascript.
Ruby On Rails gains its powerful from its self-integration & being OO in the core. I do believe that something can be a silver bullet for a sensibly narrow topic area. I investigate RoR as well, but discarded it because its integration with anything that isn't a database is also.. Lacking. Maintenance wise though, it is excellent. RoR is a much better candidate for web development than PHP 4. Richard --- Richard Vowles, Solutions Architect, Borland New Zealand email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +64-9-9184573 cell: +64-21-467747 other: MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED], skype: rvowles blog: http://www.usergroup.org.nz/blogs/selectBlog.html?id=39769 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:44 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Scripting languages Yes it is off topic but you started it! PHP5's OO is a lot better and you could build a good framework in it (it is probably your framework which is good not the language) Some things in PHP5 are great Autoload for class refs etc, I'd not dismiss PHP. As you know its not the language which it at fault with HTML dev, its generally HTML itself but every time I see another golden bullet dev platform (Ruby on rails for example) I have a sly chuckle The best bit is that you can make PHP 5 look a lot like Delphi Neven Richard Vowles wrote: > Once I got to the retarded method they use for objects I just gave up. > But this is off-topic. > > Ever tried to understand what is going on in oscommerce? PHP begs > spaghetti coding - and I can't stand that method of building web pages. > I have my own framework I have worked on for years, it is > mega-productive, extremely clean and very extensible. It is also in > Java which is both good and bad. My role in DevCo will require me to > use and promote both technologies, but I'd like to be able to use it > in .NET as well. > > Richard > --- > Richard Vowles, Solutions Architect, Borland New Zealand > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > phone: +64-9-9184573 > cell: +64-21-467747 > other: MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED], skype: rvowles > blog: http://www.usergroup.org.nz/blogs/selectBlog.html?id=39769 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alister Christie > Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 11:54 a.m. > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] Scripting languages > > Having done very little PHP I can't comment too much, however the bit > of cut and paste I have done I found fairly easy to understand and > improve upon. > > Do you consider it an abomination because of it's syntax (like say, > they way VB is an abomination)? > > _______________________________________________ > Delphi mailing list > [email protected] > http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > > -- Neven MacEwan (B.E. E&E) Ph. 09 620 1356 Mob. 027 4749 062 New Address Details =================== MWK Computer Systems 1 Taumata Rd Sandringham Auckland Ph 620 1356 Fx 620 1336 _______________________________________________ Offtopic mailing list [email protected] http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/offtopic
