Take a look at this google AJAX tool then
http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/
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Richard
I never used OO in 4 (inherited the code), But as you say the oo was
pretty limited (so limited in fact that they didn't have a lot to break
when they went to 5), so if you are looking at ror, then have a look at
5, My next challenge is Ajax, and yes that scares me
Neven
Richard Vowles wrote:
Surely to make OO better they would have to break everything that came
before? PHP 4's OO is really, really appalling. So is all that embedding
rubbish in the HTML, lack of good database connection management - it
came across to me (PHP4) as a language designed by people hacking
something together. For the simple reason of its lack of maintainability
is simply killing it for me. I have the same problem with writing large
AJAX websites in Javascript.
Ruby On Rails gains its powerful from its self-integration & being OO in
the core. I do believe that something can be a silver bullet for a
sensibly narrow topic area. I investigate RoR as well, but discarded it
because its integration with anything that isn't a database is also..
Lacking. Maintenance wise though, it is excellent. RoR is a much better
candidate for web development than PHP 4.
Richard
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On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:44 p.m.
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Scripting languages
Yes it is off topic but you started it!
PHP5's OO is a lot better and you could build a good framework in it (it
is probably your framework which is good not the language)
Some things in PHP5 are great Autoload for class refs etc, I'd not
dismiss PHP.
As you know its not the language which it at fault with HTML dev, its
generally HTML itself but every time I see another golden bullet dev
platform (Ruby on rails for example) I have a sly chuckle
The best bit is that you can make PHP 5 look a lot like Delphi
Neven
Richard Vowles wrote:
Once I got to the retarded method they use for objects I just gave up.
But this is off-topic.
Ever tried to understand what is going on in oscommerce? PHP begs
spaghetti coding - and I can't stand that method of building web
pages.
I have my own framework I have worked on for years, it is
mega-productive, extremely clean and very extensible. It is also in
Java which is both good and bad. My role in DevCo will require me to
use and promote both technologies, but I'd like to be able to use it
in .NET as well.
Richard
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Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 11:54 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Scripting languages
Having done very little PHP I can't comment too much, however the bit
of cut and paste I have done I found fairly easy to understand and
improve upon.
Do you consider it an abomination because of it's syntax (like say,
they way VB is an abomination)?
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