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http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-announce/2009-March/002109.html Thanks Jim On 03/26/09 13:50, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> OTOH, you need rules in order to be a "nation of laws" rather than a >>> "nation of men." The OpenSolaris community is not a nation, but people >>> are watching how we conduct ourselves, and if we have a rule we should >>> follow it or amend it via a prescribed mechanism. If it turns out >>> to be >>> impossible to amend a universally hated rule via the prescribed >>> mechanism THEN we have a real problem. >>> >>> Using the same sorts of terms you used: a fascist could argue that >>> "secret ballots are not a good rule, so let's chuck it." >>> >> >> It always amazes me how one thing written on the internet >> can be spun so badly. >> >> We have a vote in hand. >> We have a voting population P. >> The number N of ballots is not a majority because ( N/P < 0.5 ) >> >> However, within the number N we have greater than 50% that made a vote >> that supports a given directive. >> >> The problem, is that we don't have a practical, pragmatic way to apply >> that vote. The rule book does not work for us in this case. >> >> Do we have a leader? A person or group of people that would look at >> this, >> call a meeting and simply look at the vote and make a decision. >> > > It seems that in the absence of a clear and uncontested > interpretation, that it would be wrong to take any action based on the > current vote. I.e. the conservative approach seems the best to take. > > That said, I *think* the best approach to get progress on this is: > > a) Get the charter modifications that are needed by Sun done... the > new OGB should make this a top priority. Had this occurred *ahead* of > the election, then probably enough of the Nays and Abstains would have > been Ayes to pass the new constitution. > > b) Once A is done, hold a special election to try again, with > clearer rules about what constitutes a majority. (This should > probably also be addressed in the new Constitution itself, if it isn't > already there.) There needs to be a much more concerted effort to > GOTV made as well. Too many people, IMO, believe that the duty of > voting is "optional" rather than a responsibility that they are > obligated to perform as part of their CC grant. > > To be fair, I don't really care *what* the outcome is. I'm pretty > confident that the Constitution will be changed one way or another to > match the contents of the new one. The issue is simply whether we can > do it on the vote just taken (I don't think we can), or whether there > will be another round of administrative details and voting needed > first. While I do think the next round of voting feels like make-work > to me, I think this failure gives us an opportunity to fix the issues > that were raised, and prevent similar controversy in the future. > > -- Garrett > >> Dennis >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> core-contrib-discuss mailing list >> core-contrib-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/core-contrib-discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > ogb-discuss mailing list > ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss -- http://twitter.com/jimgris
