Jim Grisanzio writes: > No need for SIGs since they are really just Communities. No need for > Consolidations since that's a Sun term, and we should just keep making
I just know I'm going to regret poking my nose in here, but ... How exactly is "Consolidation" only a Sun term? Regardless of the name used, the concept reflects something that has substance and meaning quite apart from any Sun internal documentation. It's a collection of software that's intentionally built and delivered as one unit and managed in a consistent way. It has one versioning train and release vehicle. In architectural terms, it provides a boundary within which cooperating projects are versioned in lock-step and thus can freely share what would otherwise be unusable interfaces and dependencies. In the same way that a "User Group" is not well-represented as a "Project," a consolidation is also not reasonably a Project. It imposes integration- and release-related restrictions on other Projects -- much in the way that a distributor might; and often as a _proxy_ for the distributors ("please don't forget i18n"). It also sometimes behaves as a community in shepherding related projects and arbitrating among them. It certainly would be possible to construct OpenSolaris solely of independent Projects, and abolish forever the "consolidation" idea. It would be a poorer and harsher environment -- many Projects would be forced[1] (for the sake of compatibility with others) to nail down interfaces that would otherwise be more fluid Consolidation Private bits -- but it could be made to work. (Yes, I know full well that this sort of stability would also have an upside; it's not necessary to follow that tangent.) This is, though, a key _technical_ choice for the community: do we want to have a forest of independently versioned and maintained projects, each with its own set of standards and plans, and each of which delivering directly to distributors that are picking and choosing bits, or do we want to have a smallish number of consolidations into which projects integrate, and that act to set standards? I don't think I can answer that question. I know which one I prefer, and I strongly suspect that others here prefer the other one. But we _must_ choose explicitly among these important technical and strategic options. Pretending that the issues don't exist or aren't relevant won't make them go away. 1. I know someone will ask this: "who will force this?" The right answer is that Mother Nature herself does the job if we refuse or neglect to do it. If those formerly Consolidation Private interfaces aren't treated as Committed when consolidations are gone, then the result (by definition) must be incompatibility over time as separate objects are versioned. When you change "foo" to "bar," the other projects that are still calling "foo" will simply break -- forcing them to change as well or forcing others to refuse your change. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <james.d.carlson at sun.com> Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677