John Plocher wrote: > Ahem, as one of those in the community who tried (unsuccessfully) to > have his voice heard and included in the drafting of the constitution, > only to be told that I'd have a chance to influence it after it was > presented to the community as a done-deal, I object. The CAB was so > sick and tired of the whole charter and constitution effort that it > just wanted to be done with it. >
Hey, John ... If your voice was not heard in all this, I apologize, since I was involved in a lot of the early communication efforts. It was not an easy process, that's for sure, and it was a bit confusing initially since the CAB/OGB's role actually emerged over time. But the CAB and the initial OGB were happy to have help and asked for that help many times. And everyone recognized that the governance was an initial effort to get us going and that it would have to evolve. But that is a minor issue compared to some of the other things we are talking about. I'm not sure it's fair to say they wanted to be done with it. They did the best they could with what they were given, and even now I still say it was a remarkable achievement. We /as a community/ have simply not worked the governance we voted for. > I'm OK with that - after all, the time to talk was over and it was > time to do. Code wins, as they say. Just don't rewrite history to > imply that nobody in the community cared. > Many people cared, that's true. But relatively few directly participated by offering actual content. We intentionally used the Genunix wiki for the governance drafts specifically to enable anyone to help craft the document itself. I can remember Roy encouraging people to just go and edit the thing. But governance was simply not a high profile issue for the community or (or Sun for that matter) back then. No one's fault necessarily, but it just wasn't and that's relatively easy to document. Many of us who were involved tried internally and externally to rise these issues, but involvement was limited at best. Lessons learned. There are voices in this thread who are now advocating that we learn from this and try to make things work going forward. I support them in that effort. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
