On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:10 AM, John Sonnenschein <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 21-Feb-08, at 10:05 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:57 PM, John Sonnenschein > > <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 21-Feb-08, at 9:53 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, John Sonnenschein > >>> <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 21-Feb-08, at 8:59 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:57 PM, John Sonnenschein > >>>>> <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 21-Feb-08, at 8:48 PM, John Plocher wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Martin Bochnig wrote: > >>>>>>>> This cannot be an argument for "SunOS", > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SunOS is an alternate name for the ON consolidation, which maps > >>>>>>> pretty well to what was shipped 15 years ago as SunOS. Of > >>>>>>> course, > >>>>>>> we took out SunView and strapped on the whole X/NeWS/Deskset/ > >>>>>>> Open- > >>>>>>> Windows/Motif/CDE/Gnome thing in the meantime, invented Java, > >>>>>>> jumped > >>>>>>> on the web bandwagon, ... and now we have a dozen or more > >>>>>>> components > >>>>>>> in addition to ON that make up the whole operating > >>>>>>> environment... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That said, I still don't see any value for the community as a / > >>>>>>> whole/ > >>>>>>> in pursuing this fork off and rename ourselves thread... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If one does not want to associate himself with indiana for > >>>>>> whatever > >>>>>> reason, and would prefer to contribute code to ON that helps > >>>>>> SchilliX > >>>>>> ( for example ) he has no way to communicate to others what > >>>>>> project > >>>>>> it > >>>>>> is he contributes code to. Since OpenSolaris is now the canonical > >>>>>> name > >>>>>> for Indiana, he either must bring myself to saying that he > >>>>>> contributes > >>>>>> code to OpenSolaris (which we had previously established he did > >>>>>> not > >>>>>> want to do), or must write a 4 page diatribe on the history of > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> project. > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't believe that to be true. > >>>>> > >>>>> They can simply say, "I contribute code to the OpenSolaris > >>>>> community > >>>>> which is used by many others." > >>>>> > >>>>> Just as code contributed to say, Fedora, etc. often gets > >>>>> contributed > >>>>> back upstream to the Linux kernel project which SuSE and others > >>>>> then > >>>>> in turn use. > >>>> > >>>> Indeed. But a kernel dev that uses Ubuntu does not then I don't go > >>>> out > >>>> and say "I contribute to SuSE" typically. They will generally say > >>>> " I > >>>> contribute to Linux ". A parallel which we lack. > >>> > >>> I'm not so sure about that. Ubuntu contributors tend to be fairly > >>> proud that they contribute directly to Ubuntu. > >>> > >>> In fact, afaik, the Linux kernel maintainers often pick up patches > >>> from various places, put them into their own kernel trees, and then > >>> later mass integrate them into the main tree. > >> > >> Irrelevant. > >> > >> If I want to directly say that I contribute to O/N without making > >> reference to a particular distro, I have no provision for doing that. > > > > Yes, you do. > > > > "I contribute to the ON project on opensolaris.org; which includes the > > kernel and other components." > > > > opensolaris.org is not referencing a particular distribution :) > > > It does now.
No, it doesn't despite your assertions to the contrary. If it did, why do we still have links to other distributions and will continue to in the future? Why would other distributions be allowed to use the trademark? OpenSolaris in the context of a distribution means a single distribution. OpenSolaris in the context of a community means a community. You may be bitter about the name issue, but that is no reason to be silly about it. > In the same vein our hypothetical redhat using LKML gremlin doesn't > say " I contribute to the kernel of SuSE " . I disagree. People that contribute to SuSE, Ubuntu, etc. directly, say so. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben
