Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >> I want to continually be reminded that either solution above is far >> better than what we have today. Right now we have NO direct impact >> on Solaris Express, no voice, no rights, and very little input and >> only indirectly at that. We really don't have the ability to dictate >> how Sun proceeds, only to try to steer it by providing input as much >> as possible. > > That is actually not true at all. > > Non-Sun employees can sit on ARC. > Many groups have open design on public fora. So a lot happens there. > (Think the desktop components, the networking stack, and recently even > some of the suspend/resume and other laptop related work.) > > Various external contributions have been made that are now in Solaris > Express as well. My point isn't that people can't contribute or have a say into Nevada... they clearly can, but there is no control over whether or not that makes it into Express.
> So, while the community doesn't get a "veto", neither is it correct to > say that there is no direct impact. > > As long as Sun is spending resources on this thing called OpenSolaris, > you can *bet* that even engineers will often have their best judgment > overridden by managers at Sun who have business concerns, etc > > If you want a "veto", then you need to have your own distribution. > And your own development staff. Here's why: > > If Sun decides to take its toys and go home, while the community will > have the current code base, you can pretty darn well bet that it will > be as effective a veto as any that Sun has yet utilized. (And that > will remain true until there is a sizable community of developers > working on improving OpenSolaris who are not Sun employees. With a > few notable exceptions, there are very, very few people in the > community who are writing code that falls into the core of what we > would identify as "OpenSolaris", who are not also Sun employees.) > I personally have no real interest in veto's per se. Our focus should be on being part of the process before it ever gets there. Clearly, keeping the reference distribution as small as possible, as Indiana currently accomplishes, means that there are fewer areas of contention, which is a good thing. If veto's ever come out then the process has failed somewhere. benr.
