Stephen Lau wrote: > Ashley Saulsbury wrote: > >> Stephen Lau wrote: >> >>> Ashley Saulsbury wrote: >>> >>>> Brandorr wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tony, >>>>> >>>>> From my understanding, projects can be promoted to communities, >>>>> but communities can not be demoted to projects. >>>>> >>>>> That being the case, you might consider a third approach to getting >>>>> up and runnning quickly. Seek approval from the Xen community for a >>>>> new project "ldom". This is the fastest path to getting up and >>>>> running quickly, as it only involves approval at the CG level. At a >>>>> latter date, ldom could be promoted to a full community, or moved >>>>> into the virtualization community as a project (or set of projects). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Our request is for full community status. >>>> >>>> At some future date if the Xen and Zones communities agree we can >>>> work towards merging to a single virtualization community. >>>> >>>> Right now we have shipping product we want to open for community >>>> involvement - that's not the Xen community or the Zones community. >>> >>> >>> >>> Why not open a Virtualisation Community and create an LDoms project >>> endorsed by the community? >> >> >> Precisely because it *wont be* the open solaris virtualization >> community without Xen and Zones being a part. > > > And I believe Xen and Zones should be a part of that. If you want > someone to talk to them to see if they are interested in pursuing that - > I'll be happy to do that. But Xen and Zones were grandfathered as > Communities since they existed before we had Project support. > >> I don't have a problem with Zones and Xen being relegated to being >> projects ... if you the board are interested in persuing that route >> perhaps you could / should raise that with them. > > > There is no "relegation". Communities are not greater or better than > projects. They are different. > > What will you do with your LDoms community? Publish code? So sorry, > you can't, since you can't have repositories. So what are you going to > do? Create an LDoms project and endorse it with your LDoms community? > So now you have both an LDoms project and an LDoms community? That's > confusing and silly.
Perhaps this is the confusion. LDoms is not a project - it is a community of people who are working on numerous projects related to the LDoms family of products. This will involve at a minimum the SPARC hypervisor, Solaris driver projects, domain manager projects, management tools, migration tools, installation tools, backup tools etc. ... please note the plurality of projects in each of these areas. There will likely be dozens of projects (since there are already dozens of projects even within the Sun internal development team) - this will (hopefully) only increase as we get wider community engagement. Each of these projects will have their own milestones and code drops - and will come and go over time. As such, LDoms exactly fits your definition of a community - and should have its own governing board and project level coordination. cheers, ash.
