John Falkenthal wrote: > Ashley Saulsbury wrote: > >> Stephen Lau wrote: >> >>> >>> And are all those projects ready to be initiated and started now? Do >>> you have content? Are you truly ready for open development, open >>> design, etc.? >> >> >> Yes. >> >>> >>> If so, then great. I'll be happy to vote for an open LDoms Community >>> Group with tons of content ready to go, with projects ready to be >>> instantiated and endorsed - and lots of open discussion and design on >>> multiple mailing lists. >> >> >> Great - thanks ! >> > LDom's is taking off in the market. We've been shipping since April, > our own "internal" support list is flooded with queries on a daily > basis, Ash and I are being asked to meet with ISV's and customers on a > daily basis, we've had to respond to numerous emergency RFP's requiring > LDoms engineering roadmap data to support large sales efforts > immediately. We have a vibrant development team both internally and > externally (including engineering from companies like Canonical). We > are already in production at key customer accounts like Genentech. We > have a multi-year engineering roadmap that includes over 20 separate > projects, we are soliciting community support now for development of key > migration tools. Moving forward with an open solaris community for > LDoms is a no brainer. > > JF
You're right - clearly you and Ashley have been heavily involved in the OpenSolaris community, and are ready to take the next step and become Core Contributors and leaders for a Community Group: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mail.opensolaris.org+saulsbury http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mail.opensolaris.org+falkenthal Oh wait. Actually, no. In fact you haven't been involved at all aside from the LDoms proposal. But let's extend this to the other proposed leaders. Alexander Chartre, Jeff Savit and Steffen Weiberle have participated, so that's great. Karen Hackett's only mention is that she has been absent from repeated OpenSolaris P-Team meetings. Liam Merwick, Joerg Moellenkamp, Martin Mueller, Asa Romberger, Eric Sharakan, Tony Shoumack, and Honglin Su have had no contribution on lists. So I'm sorry, I completely disagree that moving forward with a community group for LDoms is a no brainer. Only 3 of your proposed 13 leaders have participated in any threads of discussion on any OpenSolaris mailing lists. Am I the only person who is bothered by this lack of participation? That being said, I stand by my previous statement to Ashley (which he agreed to): >> And are all those projects ready to be initiated and started now? Do you >> have content? Are you truly ready for open development, open design, etc.? > > Yes. > >> >> If so, then great. I'll be happy to vote for an open LDoms Community Group >> with tons of content ready to go, with projects ready to be instantiated and >> endorsed - and lots of open discussion and design on multiple mailing lists. > > Great - thanks ! So fine. Given that you have all that content ready to open and are ready to have open discussion and open development - I'll give you my begrudging +1 to your community group proposal. I don't know the back story of why you are so insistent upon having a CG - I believe it comes from management pressure to obtain a CG for some reason or another. I'm happy to be proven wrong though. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development