Darren Reed wrote: > Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > >> ... >> It's not bureaucracy (why does everyone think there's so much of it? >> Do you know what the word actually means?) but a lack of adequate >> infrastructure that makes contributing such a pain. I blame Sun for >> this; its insistence on maintaining control of the infrastructure and >> its tortuous legal and policy constraints are a main reason more >> progress has not been made. That said, anyone could put together a >> proposal to move all this outside Sun's control and accelerate the >> process, yet no one has. It's unclear whether that's because of >> laziness, lack of interest, or lack of means. >> >> > > There are a number of things that need to happen here and > they've been raised before (at least by myself): > > 1) move the opensolaris machinery (web server, repository, > etc) away from being owned by Sun;
While this is a noteworthy long-term goal, I fail to see what problems this solves in the short-term. Who will own them? Who will maintain them? Who will be paid to maintain them? > 2) to achieve (1), create an opensolaris entity that can own > pieces of hardware, etc; > 3) in order to fund both (1) and (2), make an opensolaris > entity that is a non profit organisation. okay, that answers my questions from #1... but... > If we were a true bona-fide opensource project and with a bit > of luck, we can get a server into a back-bone ISP's colocation > facility using 1RU or less of space. There are plenty of open source projects who succeed massively without the need for non-profit foundations. > To what extent Sun is required to cooperate here, I don't know. > > But, now that OpenSolaris is open, if there were enough interested > parties we could build a new distribution that we all worked on > (with a new name) with the model *we* want and just leave > OpenSolaris in Sun's hands. We can still pull in code from OS.o, > after it gets mirrored there from nevada. > > Heck, maybe we participants should just do that anyway, rather > than wait for Sun to work out what it wants to do with OS.o? That's certainly a prerogative that anyone has... after all, the code is open. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development
