James C. McPherson wrote: > Stephen Lau wrote: >> Darren Reed wrote: >>> Keith M Wesolowski wrote: >>> >>>> ... >>>> It's not bureaucracy (why does everyone think there's so much of it? >>>> Do you know what the word actually means?) but a lack of adequate >>>> infrastructure that makes contributing such a pain. I blame Sun for >>>> this; its insistence on maintaining control of the infrastructure and >>>> its tortuous legal and policy constraints are a main reason more >>>> progress has not been made. That said, anyone could put together a >>>> proposal to move all this outside Sun's control and accelerate the >>>> process, yet no one has. It's unclear whether that's because of >>>> laziness, lack of interest, or lack of means. >>>> >>>> >>> There are a number of things that need to happen here and >>> they've been raised before (at least by myself): >>> >>> 1) move the opensolaris machinery (web server, repository, >>> etc) away from being owned by Sun; >> >> While this is a noteworthy long-term goal, I fail to see what problems >> this solves in the short-term. >> >> Who will own them? Who will maintain them? Who will be paid to >> maintain them? > > > Who owns, runs and maintains kernel.org?
kernel.org isn't much more than a download site. > Dare I suggest slashdot, sourceforge and even OSNews as > examples here? I don't believe /. & osnews establish communities. Sourceforge is probably a more relevant example, but Sourceforge creates micro-communities with hardly any attempt to have cross-project communication. opensolaris.org is attempting to be everything (or at least all-things OpenSolaris related) to everyone, and I would argue that that is probably its fallacy. There is no *single* Linux community site, why should there need to be a single opensolaris.org site? Frankly, I think it'd be good for the health of our community if people did take stuff elsewhere and do interesting things on their own. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development