On 16/10/2007, Stephen Lau <stevel at opensolaris.org> wrote:
> Ostrovsky, Boris wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: James Carlson [mailto:james.d.carlson at sun.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:09 PM
> >> To: Ostrovsky, Boris
> >> Cc: Herman, George; ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org
> >> Subject: RE: [ogb-discuss] Creating a place for AMD-related work
> >>
> >> Ostrovsky, Boris writes:
> >>
> >>>> You can certainly start a new community if you feel that's
> >>>>
> > necessary.
> >
> >>>> The process for that is in the consititution, and requires OGB
> >>>> approval, as described in article VII:
> >>>>
> >>>>   http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/governance/
> >>>>
> >>>> You'll need to work through the issues described in 7.4, including
> >>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>> trademark problem, to get this done.
> >>>>
> >>> This is interesting, I didn't notice the trademark requirement when
> >>>
> > I
> >
> >>> first read it.
> >>>
> >>> What about PowerPC, Xen and X Windows communities? These are owned
> >>>
> > by
> >
> >>> IBM, XenSource (Citrix?) and I think OpenGroup.
> >>>
> >> That's a darned good question, but I don't have any clear answer for
> >> those specific groups.  I just know what we approved in the
> >> constitution.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Not to mention Solaris itself, trademarked by Sun, and which therefore
> > is (paraphrasing 7.4) owned by an entity outside the OpenSolaris
> > Community.
> >
> > I am really bringing this up to understand whether creating AMD
> > community is even an option based on this restriction. I don't want to
> > create a constitutional crisis ;-)
> >
> >
> The Xen one is a known issue.  PowerPC and X Windows are news to me, or
> at least, I hadn't considered them before.
> It seems unreasonably stupid to not be able to utilise these
> trademarks.  I would say if the usage of the trademarks within an
> OpenSolaris Community Group name does not violate the terms of use for
> the trademark as set by the trademark holder, then we (the OGB) should
> be okay with that.
>
> I'd be up for sponsoring this as an amendment to the constitution if
> necessary.

That seems like the best solution although it does place someone here
in the uncomfortable position of ensuring that the conditions of use
for a trademark are followed.

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
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