Section 15 isn't designed as a tracking device. It's there to let ppl
know "hey I used stuff from these works", but it doesn't have to say
what it used. Take WOTC's Unearthed Arcana for example they list some
other publishers in there section 15, (assuming you aren't already
familiar with the original work) can you immediately tell what was taken
from any of those other publishers by just looking at section 15? The
answer is no, not as written. 
 Most sections 15's I have seen would not facilitate tracking down the
authors of individual spells, feats, chars, etc used from their work
because the section 15 only gives their name, products name and
copyright year (some ppl give more info). You could make a guess as to
what OGC matches the section 15 listing but that is not the same as
giving credit explicitly. One could argue that the author could (and I
have seen this done occasionally) place a reference in section 15 for
each piece of OGC in his work. If everyone does this then the section 15
would become a book unto itself, especially with works that are 100%
OGC. 
I don't think PIing anything that the OGL allows you to PI is anymore
unethical than applying copyright or trademark protections to your work.

Whether something follows the spirit of the OGL or not is a
philosophical question and not a legal one and your mileage will vary on
the answer to that question. As designed the OGL allows for the PIing of
just about anything. If those who would reuse OGC don't like the way the
OGL is designed then don't use it.  

Bryan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ogf-l-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] PI Spell Names
> 
> 
> --- "Gillispie, Bryan W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually he isn't a jerk and isn't stopping you from using his open
> > content. What the author is doing is 100% on the up and up and is
> > ALLOWED by the OGL. Furthermore, the author has included a license
to
> > use his PI for FREE! He just wants to ensure that he gets credit for
his
> > creation, is that wrong or unethical?
> 
> Yes.  If he wants to ensure that he retains credit, then he should not
> declare
> the name as PI.  That way, anyone who wants to trace the OGL back to
its
> source need only check section 15 of the license... that's how the OGL
is
> designed.  If he doesn't like the way the OGL is designed, he
shouldn't
> use
> it.
> 
> > In most cases 99% of what you want to reuse is reusable. Is it a
pain to
> > have to go through and take out the PI? Yes, but if you want to use
the
> > stuff so badly why not just take what was offered and create the
rest?
> 
> That's exactly what I'm saying he should do.  Change "Shadow Weapon"
which
> is
> a PI term, and replace it with "Weapon of Shadow" which is not.
> 
> 
> 
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