Matthew Hodgson wrote:

> It's probably only out of fear of security that people think they need
> the CC licence.

I don't get this.

The first issue seems to be that CC licensing is too complicated.  I
don't get this.  What's so complicated about it?  That there are
different CC licenses?  The reason is that they are trying to solve
different problems.  Sometimes you want a free license for
non-commerical use, sometimes you want a share-alike license, sometimes
you want a BSD-like attribution-only license....  They still don't span
the space of what's possible, but give a range of options.  But what's
complicated about any given license?  There are just choices.  It's only
complicated if you want to do something that none of the licenses
support (e.g. Ryan's example with mixing "product identity" and open
content -- although I must say that myself, that mixture strikes me as
more complicated and pitfall-prone than anything CC has put out).

The second question is: what do CC licencenses let you do that standard
copyright doesn't?  To me, it's blatantly obvious what it does, and I'm
surprisd that the question even comes up on the OGF list, given that
you'd expect this list to have a predisposition to understanding the
value of open licensing.

For instance: consider a non-commercial license.  What's the point?  The
point is that you can post the text of a book, or chapters from the book
remixed with your own stuff, on your website without fear of takedown
lawyergrams.  A nice thing to have, that.  We are CONSTANTLY reminded on
sites about copyright that money has nothing to do with it, and thus
there *is* a need for a license that allows non-commercial
redistribution if that's what you want.

A share-alike commercial redistribution license makes it the text
equivalent of the GPL for software.  Standard copyright law doesn't
allow for this.

The notion that "you could always just ask for permission" is
tremendously naive.  Look at all the stories recently about how it is
becoming impossible to make a documentary, because you have to get
permission to include little bits of culture in the background of your
documentary.  Yes, the real problem is that copyright law is amazingly,
amazingly broken in this country.  I, however, have little hope that it
will be fixed; indeed, the move with lawmakers seems to be to make it
more broken.  Given that, the best we can do is try to put our own stuff
out under humane licenses.   *That* is the purpose of creative commons.

-Rob

-- 
--Prof. Robert Knop
  Department of Physics & Astronomy, Vanderbilt University
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