> But since Mongoose
> itself derived those elements in part from the
> public domain sources,
> how is one to determine whether or not Daniel's
> interpretation of,
> say, Firbolgs is safely public domain or breachedly
> Mongoose-derived?

It seems pretty common sense to me that if they both
match the public domain inspired concept that there is
no problem. 

Some of you list veterans may remember this discussion
goes way back to my "snow ape" example in the real
early days of the OGL. The question was: "can I PI the
name 'snow ape' for my monster?" Though not a public
domain issue, it raises similar issues.

I also have a good public domain issue--our Orcus
logo. Now the name "Orcus" is clearly public domain as
it is an ancient Roman God of the dead. However, IMHO,
the particular "bat winged goat guy with a skull
tipped wand" is TSR/WotC's particular incarnation of
Orcus. To me, this is an excellent example of how you
can take a public domain idea and create your own
expression of it and have something that is "PI-able."


As a result, I got permission to use that incarnatioin
in our logo. Subsequently, we had the logo privately
designed and we therefore have a copyright interest as
well as a trademark interest in the Orcus logo, and as
such we can PI it (and we do!).

> I still say the easiest course is likely to be to
> get in touch with
> Mongoose and see what can be worked out.

I think you know my long standing position on just
calling and getting permission :) As a general
principle, I absolutely think it is the right thing to
do, just from a professional courtesy and prevent
headaches standpoint (not as a legal requirement). 

But in this case, to use a few public domain names
doesnt seem to be a problem even needing a phone call.

Clark


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