At 04:01 PM 05/05/2000 +1000, Geoff Skellams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>You need to keep in mind that a lot of people here probably aren't
>programmers (or at least aren't Java programmers) and haven't kept up with
>the state of play. I *AM* a programmer (in C++), and I haven't kept up with
>Java's current state. We experimented with it a couple of years ago, and
>then took a different tangent. Pity, because I loved the language.
I do, too. Java was a toy for Web developers back in 1996, but it's
a robust, terrific language now.
At 04:58 AM 05/05/2000 -0500, "J. Michael Looney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Name the applications. From where I sit I see very little Java apps that
>really do any thing. Lots of "crapletts" that spin wheels on web pages,
>but very few (read none) real apps.
Sun's religious about promoting new Java programs on its Web site:
http://industry.java.sun.com/javanews/more/success/0,1961,,00.html
Most people aren't seeing the progress because it isn't desktop
applications or Web applets; its middleware and other wonky
corporate stuff. The application I'm most excited about is Tomcat,
the addition of Java Server Pages and Java servlets into the
Apache Web Server. Sun licensed its source code to Apache in
these areas and is allowing it to be released under an open source
license. That will put a Java virtual machine in millions of Web
servers (Apache has 7.8 million installations at present).
With that, I'll try to resist further Java advocacy here. A
good place to learn more about it is Cafe au Lait:
http://metalab.unc.edu/javafaq/
Rogers Cadenhead
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