On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Michael Cortez wrote:

> Now something that I've been wondering about.  If you'd care to comment then
> great, if not -- no biggy.
>
> OK, let's assume if we claimed Free20 as a Trademark that WotC would have
> ample reasons to litigate, and could possibly win.
>
> What if we didn't claim Free20 as a Trademark.
>
> Let's just call it a piece of Art, a simple Logo.  No Trademark involved.
> And I'm licensing people to use this artwork to indicate that their product
> is compatible with mine.

It doesn't matter that you (meaning the group) doesn't refer to the logos
(those on the right side of the link Mike posted earlier) or the names
(either Free20 or Open20) as trademarks.  You are using them as trademarks
- that is as a mark which identifies your (and related)  products.  That
makes them trademarks.  Regardless of whether or not you try to register
them as trademarks.

So the answer is yes, WotC can sue you for trademark infringement if they
are so inclined.

Then the issue becomes whether or not the logos/names do actually infringe
on WotC's (soon to be) registered trademark of 'd20 system'.  And that's
one of those issues no one can really give you a definitive answer because
it's a matter for a court to decide.  It's also the type of question that
really should be left to trained & practicing trademark attorneys rather
than even to dabblers in the field like Ryan or myself.  (Although i do
think Ryan's comments on trademarks have been very helpful & I'm somewhat
sorry for opening up this thread when I was really just trying to explain
where the 'd20 system' trademark was in the approval process.)

alec

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