Ouch! Con Damage is NASTY.. I'd say feel free to make that Open, since that is NOT VP/WP.. and I'd be hesitant to use that in a game. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kletch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] Just for the fun of it...
> The brutal shortcut to a VP/WP system is to reduce all crit multipliers by one, > and say all critical hits deal con damage instead of HP damage. Then release > that under the OGL. Unless that gets bashed, I may use just that. > > -Mike > > --- Bill Olander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin, > > This is an oldie but a goodie in terms of discussion here. I actually enjoy > > it more than the endless "I want to make a program that.." discussions.. > > > > I've found that the best way to think of it is to realize that there are > > generations as to the growth of the game in terms of what gets released as > > Open content. > > > > Here's how Wizards gets away with doing what they do: > > 1. Player's Handbook gets released with a completely closed Ruleset. Full > > copyright privledges to WotC. > > 2. SRD gets released with the attached OGL. Derivative of #1. > > 3. Products: From SSS, AEG, Mongoose excetera come out. Derivative of #2 > > therefore they have to include the OGL. > > 4. Star Wars, Wheel of Time, etc come out. Derivative of #1, therefor no > > need to include the OGL. > > 5. Kenzer releases Kingdoms of Kalamar through a seperate non-lisenced deal > > with Wizards. Derivative of #1, no need to include the OGL. > > > > Working in your Coin Flip game: > > 2. You create and release an open content Coin-Flip (TM) game. > > 3. Products from companies A,B, and C release excellent add in for coin > > flip. Derivative of #2, must use the OGL. > > 4. You create Coin Flip in Space(TM) with the nifty new "lands on its side" > > mechanic without even making it open content. > > You can do this because #4 is actually derivative of the Hypothetical #1. > > Also known as the manuscript on your computer. > > > > Now companies A,B, and C have to make their products derivative of #2 until > > you as a company go in and make a new SRD based off of #4. Hypothetically, > > you could make the products of companies A,B, and C worthless since everyone > > will be clamoring for the "official" Coin Flip products. However, if Coin > > flip products suddenly start taking a dave in quality as compared to the > > offerings of A,B, and C.. you could suddenly find that they no longer need > > you and people stick to purchasing the nifty suppliments. > > > > That's really only a hypothetical as people are going to be clamoring for > > the D&D fixes in 3.5. The jump to 4E might be a little less smooth should > > they make drastic changes to the rule set and people decide that they like > > 3E better. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martin Cutbill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] Just for the fun of it... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 07:21 AM, Martin Cutbill wrote: > > > > > I cannot legally create a game based in my own IP (let's call it > > > > > Dustbin Wars), and use the SRD for the rules mechanics and not > > > declare > > > > > the rules mechanics or anything derived from SRD mechanics as Open > > > > > Content. > > > > > > > > But Wizards can, and does. d20 is theirs, and they don't have to > > > follow > > > > the OGL or d20 STL license to use it. Hence, nothing in *any* > > > Wizards > > > > d20 supplement is Open Content. > > > > > > > > Sixten > > > > > > So (and not being argumentative), > > > > > > I can create a totally non-derivative ruleset (i.e totally not D20, I > > > dunno, something that involves tossing coins), release it under the > > > standard OGL, have lots of people take it up & use it, then later > > > improve on it and, because I derived material from Open Content THAT I > > > ORIGINALLY AUTHORED AND OPENED, I am not obliged to declare the > > > derived content as Open Content also? > > > > > > Is that it? Have I got it now? > > > > > > Martin. > > > <confuzzed> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ogf-l mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ogf-l mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Ogf-l mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l _______________________________________________ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l
