Dear Garett,

I think I strongly disagree with you.

[email protected] wrote:
Dear Alasdair,


The model of OpenSolaris is broken. The model of OpenIndiana following
OpenSolaris is broken. The illumos model is following the successful Linux
model. This is exemplified by distributions such as the commercially supported,
general purpose OmniOS, Joyent’s SmartOS, Delphix OS, and others.

In our context, education/research community, we expect an OS coming from some kind of model, a model like Linux Debian or FreeBSD, with a free OS (no strings attached to it), but with people doing business around it with some kind of service (support, installations, solutions, ...). The kind of model we had with Sun was also fine for us : in the 80's and 90's with had a site license for some number of nodes. After that, till the moment Sun was bought by Oracle, the OS was free, but we paid for support. This was also OK.

Openindiana is the Ilummos distribution which best fits what we expect.

IMHO, it's an error making Illumos follow the Linux model for the simple reason that the user base size isn't comparable. Still IMHO, because of the difference in user base size and the amount of developpers, it should be better to aggregate resources in order to have, for the moment, a solid distribution instead of all these distributions (OmniOS, Joyent's SmartOS, Delphix OS, ...). Maybe this is what is killing Openindiana. You should think about.

Before the message of Alasdair, I was just preparing some dozen of servers to get into production in our organization, running some infrastructure applications (DNS, mail servers, directory servers, NFS servers, a lot of web servers, ...), based on Openindiana.

After your message, I looked for the distributions you mentioned above. None of them fits the model I want. One of them even doesn't have, in their site, a download link, but have a price page. So, we're coming back to some kind of closed model, the same Oracle model all of you are critisizing. At another one, it seems that some features are disabled if you don't have a support contract (zfs send/receive). So, again, back to the Oracle closed model. If I shall go back to a closed model, maybe I'll prefer remain at Oracle.

Now that I know what you really think about the future of Illumos and their distributions, I may definitely consider another OS : Linux of FreeBSD.

Best regards,

José-Marcio


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