Am 2012-08-30 22:18, schrieb [email protected]:

Again, you misunderstood what I was talking about.   I wasn't talking about 
open vs. closed at all.

So let me clarify:

What is *broken* was the model of slavishly trying to follow OpenSolaris, or to be an 
"open & free" alternative to Solaris 11, servicing servers, desktops, laptops, 
and both SPARC and x86.  That was the model that OI started with -- to simply package up the 
bits that Oracle was providing, try to match it to an illumos kernel, and package the whole 
thing up.

What's broken about this is two fold.

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These are all leaders, innovating in some way or another.  Can anybody point to 
an area where OI has contributed any significant innovation to the ecosystem?  
I can't.  OI is a follower.  It filled (and perhaps still fills) an important 
role for the community, but lets not pretend that OI is the seat of excellence 
or innovation.  Other distros fill that role.


Garrett.

While I can agree that it is a huge effort to keep a desktop distribution and probably most people interested in keeping it alive are not ones investing in it technically or financially, I have to disagree on one point: OpenIndiana has long ago stated they no longer want to follow Oracle lead and that they want to maintain their own vision of distribution. And while the vision of desktop may not be clear or clearly expressed, I believe it was there. Now, as for those hordes of poeple that wanted desktop but did nothing for it, I agree with you, that your opinion is yours. While I understand your issues with illumos on desktop, *I* greatly appreciate what OpenIndiana gives me, as a user. I don't miss all those things you do. And you see, there are lots of people who don't. So it is good to hear what you lack, but I and few of my friends would appreciate it if you spoke in less authoritative manner next time, please. Yes, I am one of those users that take and give not very much, but large numbers of me is a sad reality of any other distribution.

Anyway, those were my opinions also.

Have a coffee.

Damian Wojsław

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