On 07/22/2014 14:05, Nikola M. wrote:

First of all, sorry for replying late (I had some issues with
illumos-dev ML).
We have prepared for this change (I've prepared components for
ntfsprogs and parted). I'd like to mention that removing parted is a
bit unpleasant for us taking in consideration that current GNU parted
lacks Solaris/illumos support. So, we stay with just the same old bits
which currently are provided in illumos-gate. However, it's not
critical, as GParted is shipped only for user convenience on slim CD
and luckily is not used by the installer.
Gparted IS critical for new users wanting to install new installations
from Live CD on existing disk to dual-boot.
We can not loose parted/gparted "just because".

if it is part of illumos, maybe it could be moved to Openindiana then to
maintain but i am asking, why would it be removed anyway?

Will renewed ntfs-3g then be available in /sfe then? Since, without
that, users would loose ntfs in OI,
and that is unacceptable.


1) Gparted is not critical, because installer doesn't use it.
2) Do we have a lot of users installing OI on the same drive with Windows? I don't believe so. In any case dual boot can be set up without gparted / parted. The only case when it's very useful on install ISO is when you would like to shrink your NTFS partition to install OI. Other cases (like creating new partitions) are supported by the installer. 3) We can (and likely will) import parted into oi-userland if it is dropped from illumos-gate. However, having noone interested (and having skills) to support it, it is likely to rot there.
4) IIRC ntfs-3g doesn't depend on parted / ntfsprogs

As I've said, taking in consideration that upstream GNU parted is not supported on illumos, dropping it from illumos-gate means it will die faster. Of course I'd prefer someone to port fresh GNU parted to oi-userland, as I lack skills and time to do it myself. But once again - loosing parted/GParted IMHO is not critical for OI.
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Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Computer Center of Southern Federal University

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