Btw, VirtualBox works on many platforms -- there it support for Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris, and illumos hosts. It supports the same operating systems as guests. I don't think its quite up to the same performance and integration standards as VMware, but its not far off either; I do have a Mac mini that runs VirtualBox to occasionally boot up Windows, and it works fine. (Couldn't justify a VMware license for the minimal use case there -- I use that system to run my R/C flight simulator.)
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Nikola M. via illumos-developer < [email protected]> wrote: > On 07/22/14 05:11 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> ntfs-3g doesn't depend on ntfsprogs. >> >> I'd not heard that GParted wasn't supported on illumos, although I'm not >> terribly surprised. These days, dual boot seems to be infrequently used -- >> long since supplanted by use of virtualization technology (which is lots >> easier for everyone to use.) >> >> Does anyone within reach of this email still use dual boot systems? >> (Hmm... I had been doing so as recently as two years ago, and I still have >> one system that is configured that way, but I've not booted 'the other >> system' in a very long time indeed.) >> >> GParted was introduced to facilitate having users try out OpenSolaris on >> their laptops running Windows. It was seen as a key enabler for those >> masses of low income students in China that ponytail was so intent on >> luring with the desktop focus Sun had just prior to its acquisition by >> Oracle. Its unclear that the strategy had even small amounts of success in >> that regard; VirtualBox was a much better approach IMO. >> >> If OI/hipster are prepared for this change, then I think it can proceed. >> > OI is not prepared for this change untill parted and gparted are put > inside OI to serve it's users like they used to. (Would also thing other > distros should be informed about is at least) If Gparted and parted are not > illumos problem anymore, then don't let there be more problems for users. > > Also, if there were not 'ponytail', we probably won't have Opensolaris and > therefore, illumos. > > And yes I am using laptop in dual-boot that had windows first installed. > (an old laptop now but that should improve) Probably next laptop will be > same configured if not triple booted with Linux. And no, I am not Chinese > if that matters... > And yes it is crucial to give to people CD (or point them to USB image) > and say: You have everything you need to install it in dual-boot without > touching your current system to get know with the platform. > Someone thinking that dual-boot is not important - is problem of > perspective with interacting with New people. > > VirtualBox on illumos only works with OI. VirtualBox till recently was > known for being slow for compiling illumos inside of it, maybe now is > faster? > > Nonetheless, saying that people are using this and that should be backed > up with some kind of research and > my humble opinion is that Desktop/OI is important for illumos and removing > things from illumos should be better coordinated (and explained). > Yes, people will keep using dual-booting windows,Linux and I hope they > would use OI to administer servers running on illumos distros. > As I understand illumos exists to run on bare metal and provide VMs for > other platforms and not other way around (What's new with illumos I/O > drivers for KVM as a guest?) > > Saying to people not to run it on bare metal is not helping with defending > platform market place as a whole and wide it's use base. And 'ponytail' was > right on that. > > At the end of the day, best thing with OI Hipster is that it is using > fresh build of updated illumos, and one using Openiindiana (Presumably > running on laptop..) can in time observe things that affect users, kernel > people don't care about. > So they don't end up in messed up in a products users/customers would use. > Last thing I witnessed is that Standby on my (dual-boot) laptop stopped > working a while ago (it just locks with black screen and it used to work as > far as March/2014 with no problem). > > nikolam > > > > ------------------------------------------- > illumos-developer > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182179/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182179/ > 21239177-3604570e > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ > member/?member_id=21239177&id_secret=21239177-2d0c9337 > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >
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