On Wed, 11 Dec 2019, Volker A. Brandt wrote:

Till Wegmüller writes:
I concur. Some politeness goes a long way. This problem with the license
requirements however stems from firefox originally. Only that in
firefox'es case they fought with the debian community and lost. It seems
like the Palemoon community needs to have the same experience. Sadly....

To me, the problem looks slightly different:  The Pale Moon devs insist
on having private copies of a huge number of libraries in their source
tree.  If a distro changes that to use the system version of those libs
instead, the PM people consider that a license violation.  IIRC the
original Debian ./. Firefox dispute was about logos and icons.

I don't see a statement about that in the extensive license text. It is clear that any modifications to executable and logo content provided by Pale Moon are not allowed. I don't think that this means that code independently compiled under the Mozilla license is not allowed to be modified and distributed. Indeed, it must be modified to use alternate branding and logos.

It is understandable that OpenBSD does not want apps to be using separate
non-audited and possibly outdated copies of system libraries.

The arrogant and high-handed way in which the PM people phrased their
demands were no help either.  They have not realized that they are
driving users away, a very stupid thing to do.

Not sure if Jeremy should continue calling his build "Pale Moon".  Maybe
"New Moon" would be better, just to avoid sudden abuse coming from the
PM people over some build flag.

Obviously, every trace of Pale Moon and standard logos, as well as HTML style sheets are required to be changed. The name of the distribution package can not include the phrase "Pale Moon".

To me, it seems like the many requirements are rather onerous and it is thus not surprising that this software is not going anywhere fast even though it does appear to offer the experience that people used to enjoy from the original Mozilla (and later Mozilla SeaMonkey after FireFox emerged).

Bob
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