I know how to install nano, sir. To be fair, your OS is a resources hog. This small VM I'm setup only has 4 cores 4 GB of RAM.
Without limiting the ZFS Maximum ARC Cache in /etc/system, any attempts to use pkg will fail. It could be stuck for eternity if me don't intervene with Ctrl+C. Or it will run for a while but fail because not enough memory. To be able to use this VM comfortably, I have to assign 8 GB of swap and limit arc cache size to 512 MB maximum. I can't deal with vi at all. Not the modern VIM let alone your old vi. Without nano, I can't do text editing. Yes, vi is historically part of any Unix. But at least, on FreeBSD, they have a fallback, the ee editor, included by default. It's basically what I'm asking for. ---- On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:27:51 +0700 Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote ---- > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:00 AM Toomas Soome via oi-dev > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11. Jan 2021, at 09:39, Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Maybe... I'm impolite. But what if I'm just visit here once for this > > > purpose then? > > > > > > I only care about the result. Maybe I'm posted on the wrong mailing > > > list. Maybe OI-discuss more fit? > > > > > > The only thing I want to see and to care is: the next version of OI, > > > nano is included alongside of vi in the text and minimal version. > > > > > > It's just simple as that. Why make thing complicated? > > > > > > > The problem is, you are asking to expand minimal version, by definition, > > after such expansion, the minimal is not minimal any more. So, the > > decision has to me made - should the definition of minimal be changed, or > > should user who has decided to use minimal image, learn how to enter ‘pkg > > install nano’. > > hello > > As a user, I don't want my system to be polluted by unwanted packages. > I prefer installing what I want. For example, for text or code editor, > I prefer another program than nano. > > When searching for a package, i use > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml (in case it helps) > > best regards > > Vincent Torri > > >If you are making decision to use minimal image, you should be aware that > >such image is missing many things and is not intended to be used by someone > >who does not know how to use the system. > > > > PS: I see no problem to include nano with larger image. > > > > my 2 cents. > > > > rgds, > > toomas > > > > > ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > > > <[email protected]> wrote ---- > > > > > >> In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, > > >> Hung...: > > >> > > >>> Yes, it's just a single line. But why you give me a read-only file and > > >>> asked me to modified it? > > >>> > > >>> It's much more simpler for developer with write access to do it, not > > >>> me. > > >>> And it's within a second, just a single line. > > >> > > >> I don't know if other languages and cultures have an equivalent, but > > >> there > > >> is a proverb[1] that applies here: > > >> > > >> If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. > > >> If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. > > >> > > >> Teaching someone (or helping them learn) how to do something is often > > >> more useful than just doing something (once) for them. > > >> > > >> Aurélien is trying to help you to learn to fish. > > >> > > >> Learning how to clone oi-userland, create a branch, make a very simple > > >> change like this, and submit a pull request (PR) is very useful > > >> knowledge > > >> to have for anyone that wants to contribute to OI. There are certainly > > >> other ways to contribute, but since you're posting to the oi-dev list, > > >> it seems like you might be interested in the development process. > > >> Knowing > > >> the workflow for submitting a change is potentially beneficial to you. > > >> > > >> Yes, he could do it in just a couple minutes. But then you've missed an > > >> opportunity to learn something that might allow you to contribute to OI. > > >> > > >> [1] the origin of this proverb appears to be quite contested, but it > > >> seems like it might be Lao-Tzu. > > >> > > >> Tim > > >> > > >>> ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:49:50 +0700 Aurélien Larcher > > >>> <[email protected]> wrote ---- > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI > > >>>> minimal. > > >>>> > > >>>> It will help novice user like me very much. Please consider it, > > >>>> developers. I have trouble using the vi editor even though I have my > > >>>> mobile phone with me as a backup showing the vi tutorial. And I think > > >>>> many other novice users have the same trouble as me. > > >>>> > > >>>> Doing as Fedora is a step too far: > > >>>> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-33-Nano-Is-The-Default > > >>>> > > >>>> I only asked for shipping nano alongside with vi. The link I put > > >>>> above just to note that nano has pretty much become the default > > >>>> editor on the Linux world and most of us come from Linux. It will be > > >>>> easier for us. Thanks. > > >>>> > > >>>> Hello, > > >>>> basically one could add the nano package to: > > >>>> > > >>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal > > >>>> > > >>>> Kind regards, > > >>>> > > >>>> Aurélien > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> oi-dev mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> --- > > >>>> Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> oi-dev mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> oi-dev mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > >>> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Tim Mooney [email protected] > > >> Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure / > > >> Division of Information Technology / 701-231-1076 > > >> (Voice) > > >> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND > > >> 58105-5164_______________________________________________ > > >> oi-dev mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > oi-dev mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > oi-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > _______________________________________________ oi-dev mailing list [email protected] https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
