> On 11. Jan 2021, at 18:23, Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I know how to install nano, sir. > > To be fair, your OS is a resources hog. This small VM I'm setup only has 4 > cores 4 GB of RAM. > > Without limiting the ZFS Maximum ARC Cache in /etc/system, any attempts to > use pkg will fail.
This is not quite true, I have 2 VM’s with 4GB ram and one with 2GB, and I have never needed to touch max arc. But pkg is hog. can not be run with firefox, which is another hog. > To be able to use this VM comfortably, I have to assign 8 GB of swap and > limit arc cache size to 512 MB maximum. > > I can't deal with vi at all. Not the modern VIM let alone your old vi. > > Without nano, I can't do text editing. Now that would be pity, would it? rgds, toomas > > Yes, vi is historically part of any Unix. But at least, on FreeBSD, they have > a fallback, the ee editor, included by default. > > It's basically what I'm asking for. > > > ---- On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:27:51 +0700 Vincent Torri > <[email protected]> wrote ---- > >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:00 AM Toomas Soome via oi-dev >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 11. Jan 2021, at 09:39, Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe... I'm impolite. But what if I'm just visit here once for this >>>> purpose then? >>>> >>>> I only care about the result. Maybe I'm posted on the wrong mailing list. >>>> Maybe OI-discuss more fit? >>>> >>>> The only thing I want to see and to care is: the next version of OI, nano >>>> is included alongside of vi in the text and minimal version. >>>> >>>> It's just simple as that. Why make thing complicated? >>>> >>> >>> The problem is, you are asking to expand minimal version, by definition, >>> after such expansion, the minimal is not minimal any more. So, the decision >>> has to me made - should the definition of minimal be changed, or should >>> user who has decided to use minimal image, learn how to enter ‘pkg install >>> nano’. >> >> hello >> >> As a user, I don't want my system to be polluted by unwanted packages. >> I prefer installing what I want. For example, for text or code editor, >> I prefer another program than nano. >> >> When searching for a package, i use >> http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml (in case it helps) >> >> best regards >> >> Vincent Torri >> >>> If you are making decision to use minimal image, you should be aware that >>> such image is missing many things and is not intended to be used by someone >>> who does not know how to use the system. >>> >>> PS: I see no problem to include nano with larger image. >>> >>> my 2 cents. >>> >>> rgds, >>> toomas >>> >>>> ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev >>>> <[email protected]> wrote ---- >>>> >>>>> In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, >>>>> Hung...: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it's just a single line. But why you give me a read-only file and >>>>>> asked me to modified it? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's much more simpler for developer with write access to do it, not me. >>>>>> And it's within a second, just a single line. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know if other languages and cultures have an equivalent, but there >>>>> is a proverb[1] that applies here: >>>>> >>>>> If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. >>>>> If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. >>>>> >>>>> Teaching someone (or helping them learn) how to do something is often >>>>> more useful than just doing something (once) for them. >>>>> >>>>> Aurélien is trying to help you to learn to fish. >>>>> >>>>> Learning how to clone oi-userland, create a branch, make a very simple >>>>> change like this, and submit a pull request (PR) is very useful knowledge >>>>> to have for anyone that wants to contribute to OI. There are certainly >>>>> other ways to contribute, but since you're posting to the oi-dev list, >>>>> it seems like you might be interested in the development process. Knowing >>>>> the workflow for submitting a change is potentially beneficial to you. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, he could do it in just a couple minutes. But then you've missed an >>>>> opportunity to learn something that might allow you to contribute to OI. >>>>> >>>>> [1] the origin of this proverb appears to be quite contested, but it >>>>> seems like it might be Lao-Tzu. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>>> ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:49:50 +0700 Aurélien Larcher >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote ---- >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI minimal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It will help novice user like me very much. Please consider it, >>>>>>> developers. I have trouble using the vi editor even though I have my >>>>>>> mobile phone with me as a backup showing the vi tutorial. And I think >>>>>>> many other novice users have the same trouble as me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doing as Fedora is a step too far: >>>>>>> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-33-Nano-Is-The-Default >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I only asked for shipping nano alongside with vi. The link I put above >>>>>>> just to note that nano has pretty much become the default editor on the >>>>>>> Linux world and most of us come from Linux. It will be easier for us. >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> basically one could add the nano package to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aurélien >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> oi-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Praise the Caffeine embeddings >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> oi-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> oi-dev mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tim Mooney [email protected] >>>>> Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure / >>>>> Division of Information Technology / 701-231-1076 >>>>> (Voice) >>>>> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND >>>>> 58105-5164_______________________________________________ >>>>> oi-dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> oi-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oi-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> oi-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev _______________________________________________ oi-dev mailing list [email protected] https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
