Am 17.08.25 um 01:12 schrieb Atiq Rahman:
Hello Andreas,
> too complex (eg. signal, visual studio code)
both of these are electron based apps. We don't have an electron js
package on OI ?
Electron is based on nodejs and chromium. We don't have chromium yet and
thus no electron.
We have only a small number of maintainers. Some people don't
participate regularly but only add one or more packages they want to
have. That's sometimes a problem because usually they need further
maitainership because of environment changes (eg. libraries they use got
updated).
> or closed source (eg. whatsapp)
Does the web app linking work? On desktop I have always used that, way
more stable and less cranky than a native whatsapp desktop app.
I don't know what you mean by that.
> while macos is my first
Try a fantastic open-source OS like pop_os instead. Many folks are
using that one exactly for all those purposes. If you're using AI
tools for photos you probably don't need much fancy desktop photo
editing apps anymore.
I already tried pop-os but wasn't satisfied. I don't use the photo
editing apps for their AI tools only. I prefer to have full control and
use AI where it seems appropriate for me. Plus I need stability which
only the mac provides. When joining a video conference everything should
work and to my experience that's not the case with any Linux
distribution I tried.
On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 3:09 AM Andreas Wacknitz via oi-dev
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Am 16.08.25 um 11:21 schrieb Atiq Rahman:
Hello Stephan,
> now i just swap the boot discs. Its far easier.... additional
boot disc (128-512 gb?)
Are you using them on a desktop PC or on a server setup? For what
purposes do you use OI?
I am not Stephan but will nevertheless try to explain my setup.
I see OpenIndiana as a workstation platform that can also be used
as a server platform.
(OmniOS is in my eyes the exact opposite: it's a server platform
that can also be used as a workstation one.)
Of course many things are still missing in OI due to lack of
resources,
some of them most probably will never appear on it because they
are either far too complex (eg. signal, visual studio code) or
closed source (eg. whatsapp).
I use OI as my secondary operating system while macos is my first.
This is due to the fact that I want or need to use some software
that is not available on OI (eg. sophisticated photo editing, tax
declaration, video conferecing, ...). Of course I use OI on my own
home server, too.
I have started to use mixed OS installations on single disks in
the far past and stopped that when disks became affordable. The
following time I have been using the multiple disk approach that
Stephan mentioned. Partly I am still using that but I also have
some old workstations (eg. Fujitsu W530) which are really cheap
nowadays.
This is my preferred approach today because I can install any OS I
want to experiment with on them without hesitation.
Usually all of them run OI, though. That's because I need test
platforms for fundamental changes which have many implications on
other packages. But I only need this because I am one of the OI
maintainers.
I already tried to explain in a previous reply why OI is my
secondary OS. Everything else I tried (and I tried a lot) has
drawbacks that make me prefer OI over them. One important reason
is that as a maintainer I can change/influence what and how OI
provides software easily. It is quite easy to become an OI
maintainer (I know this for sure as I am in a position to add
maintainers); I think it's almost as easy as becoming a maintainer
of your own operating system.
Furthermore, OI as a successor of OpenSolaris, has some mostly
hidden features that can only be found by intensive use of OI. The
typical distro hopper who always seeks for a better environment
spending his/her time installing/collecting operating systems (or
simply Linux distributions) won't be able to find because a couple
of minutes is not enough to find and understand them.
Andreas
Cheers!
Atiq
On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 1:31 AM Stephan Althaus via oi-dev
<oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote:
On 8/16/25 07:50, Atiq Rahman wrote:
> FreeBSD has switched around the terms “slice” and
“partition”. They are using “slice" for fdisk/mbr case and
“partition” for everything else.
Thank you for sharing the fun fact!
Hi all!
Just to share my humble opinion..
Partitioning is a point where i had my 'problems', too. These
slices never really burnt in my mind, ('slice 2 is whole
disc' - why no. 2??)
Especially for new users without solarish bachground a tool
that is 'like fdisk' would be handy - i really don't like
format and fdisk cause i don't really know what they do :-/
On OI we have "parted", "gdisk" and "cgdisk" which are sort
of this, for 'modern' GPT disc labels.
That's really great. With UEFI working now flawlessly i don't
need anything else anymore.
For me, i now use UFEI boot using whoe disc, in one case i
did pre-partinioning to create a pool that is smaller than
whole disc for later mirroing..,
and zfs pools with 'whole disc' devices.
~10 years ago i battled with dual boot setups, now i just
swap the boot discs. Its far easier.
These some € more for additional boot disc (128-512 gb?)
really free spare time to create something more productive.
Just my 2 cents,
Stephan
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