Maybe I should not say unacceptable ... The license "is what it is". 

The legal department is saying that "...if the proposed modification goes through, we 
may no longer be able to use Apache code in our products."

So I do not mean to imply that there is a problem with the license, just that the 
proposed changes mean that we (and possibly others) will not be able to use OBJ and 
other Apache software in commercial products. 

I will get more info from the legal folks and let you know the details of WHY the 
proposed license is problematic for us.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian McCallister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:53 PM
To: OJB Users List
Subject: Re: Thoughts on OJB licensing


Are they willing to provide feedback to the ASF as to why it is 
unacceptable? If they found a real problem we should know about it!

-Brian

On Dec 10, 2003, at 4:42 PM, Robert J Celestino wrote:

> Proposed:
>       license itself:
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/LICENSE-2.0.txt
>       General info: http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/
>
> Current
>       license itself: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE
>       General info: http://www.apache.org/licenses/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Eason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:39 PM
> To: OJB Users List
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on OJB licensing
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> Urh, that sounds alarming.  What are the proposed changes to the
> Apache license?  Do you have a link?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert J Celestino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:37 PM
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> Subject: Thoughts on OJB licensing
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>
> Hello All,
>
> I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the licensing of OJB.
> I would very much like to incorporate OJB into our next project, a 
> comercial project. However the legal department is balking at the 
> proposed changes to the Apache License. Their position is that the 
> current Apache license is acceptable, but *proposed* changes are not.
>
> I am not a lawyer (much to my Dad's dismay) but I am wondering what
> everyone out there is doing.
>
> Thanks
> Bob c
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