Please do, maintaining commercial compatibility is a raison d'etre of the APL.

-Brian

On Dec 10, 2003, at 5:12 PM, Robert J Celestino wrote:

Maybe I should not say unacceptable ... The license "is what it is".

The legal department is saying that "...if the proposed modification goes through, we may no longer be able to use Apache code in our products."

So I do not mean to imply that there is a problem with the license, just that the proposed changes mean that we (and possibly others) will not be able to use OBJ and other Apache software in commercial products.

I will get more info from the legal folks and let you know the details of WHY the proposed license is problematic for us.

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-----Original Message----- From: Brian McCallister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:53 PM To: OJB Users List Subject: Re: Thoughts on OJB licensing


Are they willing to provide feedback to the ASF as to why it is unacceptable? If they found a real problem we should know about it!

-Brian

On Dec 10, 2003, at 4:42 PM, Robert J Celestino wrote:

Proposed:
        license itself:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/LICENSE-2.0.txt
        General info: http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/

Current
        license itself: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE
        General info: http://www.apache.org/licenses/

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-----Original Message----- From: Lance Eason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:39 PM To: OJB Users List Subject: RE: Thoughts on OJB licensing


Urh, that sounds alarming. What are the proposed changes to the Apache license? Do you have a link?

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert J Celestino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:37 PM
To: OJB Users List
Subject: Thoughts on OJB licensing


Hello All,


I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the licensing of OJB.
I would very much like to incorporate OJB into our next project, a
comercial project. However the legal department is balking at the
proposed changes to the Apache License. Their position is that the
current Apache license is acceptable, but *proposed* changes are not.

I am not a lawyer (much to my Dad's dismay) but I am wondering what
everyone out there is doing.

Thanks
Bob c

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