> A team member suggested me to wait for your results.
>
> Thus, I expected of course a notification on this forum.
>
> > But the  developer list contains a notification.
>
> I am a user - and as such I monitor only the user forum.

Your trying to contribute to the enhancement of OJB??? that makes you a
developer :)

>
> >> How can I obtain the new version without CVS access?
> >>
> >> I would like to start my intro apps.
> >
> > You have to get it from CVS or wait for the 1.0.2.
>
> I think the team should post the relevant files within the relevant
> threads (this way, the mail-archives value is increased, too).

That;s what the developer list is for - notification of changes to OJB, etc.
Posting that stuff to the user list generates too much noise.  The users
list is for supporting people who are using OJB in their products, not
supporting developers in their development of OJBs code. (Although, i do
occasionally post bug-fixes, etc to this list as i'm not on the developers
list - i get too many emails that i dont read already!)

>
> > But why would you need a quickstart anyway ?
>
> To learn and use OJB quickly, and to enable other people to learn and
> use it quickly, thus its userbase increases, thus its evolution is
> faster, thus its usability for me becomes better:
>
> [SUGGESTION] - S01 - Website.MainPage & QuickStarts
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ojb-user%40db.apache.org/msg11948.html
>
> > OJB is a system for developers not endusers,
>
> I am currently an enduser of OJB.
>
> I'm not interested in developing OJB itself, but in using OJB.
>
> I like to do this, without loosing much time and energy to get it running.
>
> > and all that the quickstart shows is that it
> > works, nothing more. I think , the ojb-blank is much more
> interesting to
> > you as it is a blueprint for an OJB project.
>
> The ojb-blank that i've download is not convenient - and i've lost many
> time with it.
>

I can see where you're coming from, but i disagree.  I started out with OJB
a long time ago, and i learnt it off of the examples, and whatever
documentation was available at the time - particularly the getting started
guide, and the PB API tutorial, and the tutorial example code.  As with most
technologies, i had a play with it and picked it up.

Daniel.


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