Hi Daniel, hi all

Daniel said:
> I also agree with making it very clear that OKCon is not a pure academic 
> conference.

agreed, this is exactly why I phrased the "Commons research" part in less 
abstract terms :-) fine with me to say "incentives for sharing", but for the 
basics in this topic, I still prefer to a. put the issues question-like and b. 
say, e.g., "what drives sharing". I have de-deleted this part of the topic 
because this is where critcism of capitalism becomes most visible, and I 
certainly want this criticism to to be visible at OKCon 2011.

  * Incentives for sharing <<< important

  *  Types of knowledge suitable for digitization, collaboration and sharing<<< 
unclear if criteria must apply lump-sum or may apply alternatively  -- NB: the 
idea initially included knowledge types like care, respect, tolerance, 
open-mindedness that I would consider non-digitizable - yet much can be learned 
from the forms of "governance" generally applied in these spheres of knowledge 
myintervention aims to make explicit an implicit limitation in opendefinition: 
"Open Definition provides criteria for openness in relation to data, content, 
and software services." and also in the Open Knowledge Definition (OKD) -beware 
of reducing "knowledge" to 'digitizable knowledge' only - too limited and 
certainly not suitable to help bridge the digital gaps, either... 

  * Governance of the knowledge commons  >>> I think this topic is very 
important, but it is a bit disconnected to the other section, no? <<<- let us 
make links and build bridges, then

  * How groups of people across the globe may do it differently and for which 
reasons they share their knowledge (for kinds of knowledge see thetracks)

  * How diffferent cultures of sharing can enhance each other in Technology, 
Law, Society and Democracy, Culture and Education, and in Science and Research

> I am not sure about the idea of separating the academic part from the other 
> activities completely. I think exactly the interdisciplinary and hybrid 
> character of some of the formats could be really attractive. I really would 
> like to hear others people opinions on this.

agree, but make sure you ask *non-academics* if they are put off by seeing too 
much in our programme that is too abstract or has too much of an "academic" 
touch and feel.

thanks & cheers,
Claudia

On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:18:32 +0100, Daniel Dietrich wrote
> Dear Mayo, Sebastian, Rufus, 
> 
> thank you all your your input. 
> 
> I agree with Mayo that the order of topics presented needs to be reorganised 
> and shaped. I also agree with making it very clear that OKCon is not a pure 
> academic conference. 
> 
> I agree with Sebastian that it's a good idea to make a bunch of formats and 
> side events possible, such as: a track of special session topics, lightning 
> talks, hands on workshops, open space, a exposition space for projects, a 
> open design and fablab work area, a hackathon or two.. 
> 
> I am not sure about the idea of separating the academic part from the other 
> activities completely. I think exactly the interdisciplinary and hybrid 
> character of some of the formats could be really attractive. I really would 
> like to hear others people opinions on this. 
> 
> I will work on the cfp tomorrow with Sebastian. 
> 
> Regards 
> Daniel 
> 
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> On 06.02.2011, at 15:29, Fuster, Mayo wrote: 
> 
> > Hi! 
> > 
> > Thanks Daniel for the draft. 
> > 
> > I also added my input. My main point is that the set of topics for me are 
> > all important, interesting and conform a rich diversity. They seems good 
> > enough as they are in their goal to inspire contributions. However, I have 
> > also to say that to me it is a bit unclear which is their order, that is 
> > the grouing of the topics. Do they refer to sectors (open data in academic 
> > research, in education, in goverment) or do they refer to layers of the 
> > complexity which make possible the open data in most sector (legal layer, 
> > technical layer, governance layer)?. They seem to be a "dancing" mix of 
> > both. But perhaps from this distintion can be reorganise a bit more the set 
> > of issues to add more clarity. But again, they are alse good as they are 
> > for now to me, when defining the program perhaps a more elaborated scheme 
> > to put all the input together would be more needed. 
> > 
> > Thanks again! Cheers! Mayo 
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> > ________________________________________ 
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rufus Pollock 
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> > Sent: 06 February 2011 14:28 
> > To: Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list 
> > Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] OKCon 2011: Drafts for CFP & announce 
> > 
> > Hi Daniel, 
> > 
> > I think this already looks pretty good and I've added some comments 
> > and amendments. Main thoughts: 
> > 
> > * Should emphasize it is *not* an academic conference (though we do 
> > have an academic stream). So things like 'camera-ready' papers are 
> > completely optional 
> > * Been quite a lot of editing of 'topics' section and I've added 
> > suggestion of listing some dedicated sessions on particular areas. 
> > We'll need to pull this together. 
> > * Are we not using 'google form' for submission? (Seems there is now 
> > link to easychair) 
> > 
> > Rufus 
> > 
> > On 4 February 2011 12:21, Daniel Dietrich <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >> Dear all, 
> >> 
> >> we are working on finalising the CFP and an announce text for OKCon 2011 
> >> 
> >> The work in progress can be found here: 
> >> 
> >> http://okcon.okfnpad.org/2011 
> >> 
> >> Please not that this is a draft version. 
> >> 
> >> Your ideas, comments and amendments are very welcome! 
> >> 
> >> Kind regards 
> >> Daniel 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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thanks & cheers, 
Claudia

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