I am available for input and comment. Peter and I serve on the Advisory Board 
of ukPMC, which is backed by 18 funders (14 UK and 4 EU, I think). I might be a 
good idea to work with these funders first to see if they will all publicly 
endorse CC-BY as the new standard: http://ukpmc.ac.uk/Funders/ 

Another important target is eLife, the new journal by HHMI, Wellcome and MPS: 
http://www.hhmi.org/news/elife20111107.html 
Not the journal should be targeted, but the funders. They can make CC-BY the 
new gold standard. 

Chris 
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Armbruster, Chris 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
One possibility is to look at publishers - and their business model / 
licensing. Yet, paid open access (open access publishing - OAP) very much 
relies on funders and institutions paying article processing charges (APC). 
Hence, the funders should be the ones that make CC-BY a condition of paying 
APC. Principally, they should have an intrinsic interest to do so, because 
CC-BY is the right license for science as well as the knowledge economy.

Many thanks Chris. It'svery useful to have such a clear statement

What we would need is a list of funders/institutions with OA policies - and a 
clarification whether they require CC-BY or not. There is something like the 
SPARC Europe Seal for Journals 
http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=loadTempl&templ=080423 - as a model for a 
seal/list. Again, the seal is applied to journals instead of funders. I think 
this a strategic mistake. The journals will follow the funders, if the APC are 
linked to CC-BY.

I think this list is really important. I think the OKFN can muster enough 
people to do a rapid summary (probably 90% of the publishing volume, omitting 
long tail).

Just now, I have not got the time to help with this, but I can point to some 
work on OA policy implementation that I completed. Maybe this can help someone 
to get started:

Absolutely. I think what we need is a simple table with the key headings and we 
could do this very quickly on this list and with a Googledoc. I hope you would 
have time to comment.

Armbruster, Chris, Implementing Open Access: Policy Case Studies (October 14, 
2010). Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=1685855

Armbruster, Chris, Open Access Policy Implementation: First Results Compared 
(September 15, 2011). Learned Publishing, Vol. 24, No. 3, 2011. Available at 
SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=1927775

Armbruster, Chris, Implementing Open Access Policy: First Case Studies 
(September 15, 2011). Chinese Journal of Library and Information Science, Vol. 
3, No. 4, pp.1-22, 2010. Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=1927772

Armbruster, Chris, Cyberscience and the Knowledge-Based Economy, Open Access 
and Trade Publishing: From Contradiction to Compatibility with Nonexclusive 
Copyright Licensing. International Journal of Communications Law and Policy, 
No. 12, 2008; Policy Futures in Education, Vol. 6, No. 4, 2008. Available at 
SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=938119

Obviously we must compile a list of articles such as yours and also any key 
blog posts so if you have a wider bibliography this would be very useful.

Best wishes,


Chris
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 On Behalf Of Pieter Colpaert 
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Sent: 08 December 2011 01:07
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Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] "Open Access" publications under CC-NC licences

+1

On 12/08/2011 12:56 AM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
There has been considerable recent discussion about CC-NC licences being used 
for "Open Access" papers by scholarly publishers. I have written a few blog 
posts (

http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/11/29/scientists-should-never-use-cc-nc-this-explains-why/
 
http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/12/04/more-on-how-commercial-publishers-use-non-commercial-licensing-funders-are-you-really-getting-your-money%E2%80%99s-worth-many-are-not/
, 
http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/12/06/acceptance-of-cc-nc-has-sold-readers-and-authors-seriously-short/
) and responded to comments. I have summarised this in
http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/12/07/%E2%80%9Copen-access%E2%80%9D-and-non-commercial-licences-summary/

Ross Mounce has summarised this as:
this mess has caused irreparable damage to the re-usability of the literature
with which I completely agree. I think it's so serious that it should not be 
discussed on my blog but brought here.

It took me by surprise that authorPays "Open Access" seems to be almost 
completely CC-NC. (The main open Access publishers such as PLoSONE and BMC have 
complete OKD-compliance by using CC-BY). CC-NC places so many restrictions on 
re-use that it is almost useless in science.

I believe that the OKFN should take this issue very seriously and with great 
urgency. We know that multi-author organizations which start using CC-NC find 
it impossible to chnage later without approaching every author and with 
scholpub this is out of the question, so the longer this goes on the worse the 
problem.

I believe that OKFN should put together a group which draws together resource 
material which makes the case against NC and then promotoes this case to 
publishers and funders. Any aproaches to funders or publishers could be done 
through IsItOpenData.




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